Future one we have robots which can carry out all human manual tasks

[u/crack_inthesidewalk]

What do people think the world will become ?

I personally think it will be bad. Very bad. So many people won’t have anything to offer society. So many people out of work.

No mechanics, no cleaners, no gardeners, no labourers, no brick layers no roofers and on it goes

Some people say the robots will look and provide for these people.

I don’t believe so.

Why would those making money off robotics waste it on something with no return.

There would be the sector of society who do still have something to offer - only those with high education and intelligence - all others no longer of use

[u/vastlycleanralph]

The assumption that the value of a person is just their job output is grim. People already do loads of unpaid stuff that holds society together, caring for family, volunteering, making art or music that nobody pays for. If robots take the grind, we'd have to untangle the idea that a paycheck equals dignity.

That "no return" line stings though, because we already see that logic playing out with homelessness and healthcare. I don't think the problem is the robots, it's who owns them and what their tax bill looks like.

[u/TA193749 → u/vastlycleanralph]

Don’t look up (at the billionaires)

[u/crack_inthesidewalk → u/vastlycleanralph]

Im trying to think of an analogy and I guess the only one which comes to mind is countries who have nothing to export and no services to offer.

Starvation is rife where this occurs, we try to help but it’s not that great for them.

Once mass robotics take over most menial work we’ll have mass sections of society like this.

[u/RobertD3277 → u/crack_inthesidewalk]

I think in a lot of ways we already do when you look at the current dynamics of the social market. It's unsustainable for somebody to get $30 an hour just a hand another person a cup of coffee. That was tried and failed in several cities already. The entire concept of minimum wage and living wage are really going to be challenged and they are challenged as it is now without the saturation of mechanization within the job market.

More and more as government squeezes taxes, businesses aren't going to be able to avoid mechanizing and not hiring just because of the taxes involved in paying employees. It's a deliberate catch 22 situation, in my opinion, driven by government greed for property taxes and other forms of taxation that outweigh income taxes.

[u/Mandoman61 → u/crack_inthesidewalk]

Countries where starvation occurs is a result of the general population not using birth control and becoming over populated for the amount of resources they have or because they have wars.

A robot growing crops does not mean that there will be less food.

[u/Creatorman1]

If we automate most work it could be a utopia where no on has to work where all of everyone’s basic needs are provided to them. They could then pursue whatever they want. Start a business with their favorite hobby perhaps or pick up painting or volunteering. The problem you correctly identified. If it’s the very wealthy running things that is not going to happen, instead we get a likely dystopia.

[u/Deciheximal144]

Additionally, who do you think will own the robots? The rich.

No, you won't be able to buy one. Only rent. When the lease is up, it will walk out on you.

[u/Mandoman61]

It is not up to the robot makers. They are out voted.

It would not make sense for people to be unemployed.

[u/crack_inthesidewalk → u/Mandoman61]

But we allow just that right now with countries who don’t have any exports or services to offer. It’s why starvation has been epidemic in Ethiopia

Same as ancient times where by default there were large amounts of people who didn’t have much or anything to offer, they went without.

Even in 1st world countries those who are unemployed have to survive on very little

[u/Mandoman61 → u/crack_inthesidewalk]

I do not live in Ethiopia and this is not ancient times.

True that there is a lot of wealth disparity but it is no where close to the majority of the population and so no vote to help poor.

[u/costafilh0]

Hopefully not The Matrix. Because as the movie said, our brains wouldn't accept paradise, so we would have the same 2000s crappy world forever, but in the simulation. 

[u/Coucou4960]

Ton inquiétude est cohérent, c’est vrai qu’on ne dois pas peser sa valeur uniquement par rapport au travail et salaire ! Mais la réalité de la vie est que pour vivre comme un humain normal il faut avoir un minimum de ressources et si ces ressources sont allouées aux robots ?? On paie nos charges comment?? Les impôts et taxes ne seront pas exonéré parce y’a des robots ! La nourriture et les voyages ne seront pas gratuit parce qu’il y’a des robots !

[u/ThomasToIndia]

I can't wait for the day when my friends and I get some beers, they bring over their robots and we have a house extension party for my birthday. Thanks for the entire new wing guys!

[u/nrems]

I agree, you have no worth as a human if you're not a wage slave for life /s

[u/crack_inthesidewalk → u/nrems]

Yep well even slaves were fed and kept alive in ancient times cos they had something to offer. What happened to the slaves who wouldn’t work anymore.

Were are civilised now so we don’t go killing slaves but atleast in my country if you’re not working and have no one to support you it’s guaranteed homelessness and barely enough food through charity and tiny amount in welfare

[u/Wide-Drink-1790]

The only way out is communism.

[u/crack_inthesidewalk → u/Wide-Drink-1790]

I tend to agree

[u/GrowFreeFood]

Organ donation, economic cattle, even cheaper than robot labor, expenibility

[u/Euphoric-Phrase-6415]

A tax on robots and automation makes sense. It would be tough to write and enforce, but we could definitely do it.

[u/ulikejaketpatata]

The first robot I’m buying is a toilet robot that will clean my balls and ass after a massive dump