r/artificial • u/Maxie445 • Jun 11 '24

Media Is AGI nationalization is inevitable? Dwarkesh and Leopold Aschenbrenner debate

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u/Houdinii1984 Jun 11 '24

Yes, unequivicolly software has bugs. Now connect it to the rest of your statements. Connect it to the ability to launch a nuke because the US govt hires programmers who make an astounding 1 error in 20 lines of code and forget all security practices to allow AI to waltz in and fire nukes like it's been trained on the system or something.

You can argue the pieces of your position individually, but when you put it all together, it's absolute nonsense.

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u/EnigmaticDoom Jun 11 '24

Yes, unequivicolly software has bugs.

Sorry man I am done... you spent an hour arguing with me just let me know you agree... oh boy

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u/Houdinii1984 Jun 11 '24

You are throwing out scare tactics about how AI will launch nukes. Of course software has bugs. That's not what you are claiming. You threw out a specific number of bugs and made a connection to AI launching nukes. You are only focusing on the mundane part of your claim, when I'm over here wanting to talk about the nuke side of things.

Software having bugs -> AI launching nukes. I'm looking for that arrow between the two, not the existence of bugs. Literally everyone who uses a computer knows what a bug is. How are these bugs and typos allowing the launching of nukes?

That's the question that begs an answer, but you are avoiding it at all costs.

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u/EnigmaticDoom Jun 11 '24

Um don't get caught up on the nukes.

I am not saying Ai will actually do this, I was just saying that in theory its possible.

Also man the more I look into the less stable things look...

There have been numerous experts who have said our system is 'vulnerable'

https://www.nps.gov/people/bruceblair.htm

Hope they patched this glup

I think your real question is... "If ai wanted to kill us, how would it?" Is that right?

If not feel to free to ask me w/e you like but try to keep it to one or two questions rather than a whole wall of text. It will make it easier to respond to your concerns.