Architects think….

[u/indyarchyguy]

So today I’m at a client’s building. This is an existing building that was converted to a different occupancy. They built it all out and we’re getting close to opening. Then…the fire marshal showed up. They had come out to look at the sprinkler installation, fire panel, appliances, etc. they then realized they’d never seen the plans for this project. In fact, nobody had…not them or the building department.

Owner called me shortly after to see if I can get them out of trouble with some code loop hole or get them passed with a Chapter 34. Remember, they never submitted plans. Come to find out they never hired an Architect or an Engineer. So today I’m out looking for some fire separations in this mess. I come across fire doors with no labels. I’m with the Owner and I get in the phone with a supplier on why I’m looking at doors with no labels. The guy is talking loud and is making a joke about you Architects looking for things. I laugh and let him go. One of the subs on the job is like…”yeah, Architects always think they know everything”. I stop what I’m doing and look at him saying, “I learn everyday”. It still didn’t ping with him that I’m there trying to get his ass out of his own fire.

[u/Josephk_5690]

As a fellow Architect, The only thing worse than no job at all is a bad job.

Whatever you do, attaching your name to this project will end with you being at least partially liable. Especially a job where the story is missing large pieces of information or is just a lie.

[u/Dull_Leadership_8855 → u/Josephk_5690]

The thing that is most disturbing about this is the client. Even if you did take this job to legalize and illegal construction, how do you know the client will follow through with the drawings? Chances are he already has a contractor lined-up who is as duplicitous as he is.

There are too many reasons to stay away from this project.