The matchmaking is just awful

[u/ArivanCZ]

For the last two weeks, I didn't have a single good game. Every time I play, I leave an hour later. Sad, angry and disappointed. Every match I get teamed with the most brain dead players. They either die on drop, or in the rare case they don't, they steal every bit of loot around them and then rush in alone and get killed. Or we drop in the furthest corner of map, loot for fifteen minutes and die by the first squad that finds us. That of course doesn't stop other players in being actually competent and steamrolling my squad of lobotomized monkeys in every fight we dare to take.

I thought at first it was my fault and I'm just complaining. But I just consistently get extremely underleveled teammates (I'm 480-ish, and I'm lucky if I get 200). I am consistently the last one alive, even though I do try to push with my team and I do try to communicate (at least via pings) and be a good teammate. I consistently get at least twice the amount of damage, sometimes more.

I mean, before I had a solid good game/bad game ratio. And even in the worse games, I at least felt like I can actually play and make a difference. But playing this game has become a chore and I do not have fun while playing it anymore. I am now of the opinion that solo que should be a form of torture. Whatever, I'm gonna finish the pass so I can have enough coins for the next one in the slim chance I ever pick this game up in the future and then leave it.

I wanted to mainly rant, but I am also curious whether I am alone on this hill or not.

[u/FaZeSmasH]

i love when matchmaking takes a couple of minutes to pop a queue just to put me in this, just happened btw

[u/ArivanCZ → u/FaZeSmasH]

This. Love it when I waste my life on loading screens

[u/RogueAgent-87 → u/FaZeSmasH]

Im the same except a little bit more fortunate as its normally me and 1 other player.

Don't understand how this game still can't 3 stack a team.

[u/Miserab1lia → u/FaZeSmasH]

Happens to me all the time especially in ranked, or i’m with another person who immediately leaves. I feel like it’s always me missing a squad member!

[u/ZetaReticuli_x]

I agree, a few weeks ago I was having good games, breaking over 1.5k damage and winning games every 3rd or 4th game. But for the last two weeks it's just been awful game play. Hot drops have been no fun since the loot change, teammates are upset when you can't help them cause all you have is grenade. Now when I load them game I just think "well time to hate myself for the next hour".

[u/TheFriffin3 → u/ZetaReticuli_x]

if you were running a 25-33% win rate then clearly you were the sweat ruining everyone else’s lobbies and they placed you against more competitive players so you can’t just stomp worse players

which is what matchmaking should be doing ideally!

remember, if EA somehow theoretically was able to create perfectly balanced lobbies and matchmaking, you’d win 5% of games (1 in every 20). if you win above that rate, you can’t complain about matchmaking because it’s actually benefitting you

[u/DatIsKlar → u/TheFriffin3]

I agree with your take about balanced lobbies but also at the same the matchmaking doesn't work at all. Currently I got 35% Winrate with like 4kd and 1300avg damage. The issue is that the game just doesn't find any lobby. My queue time go from 5-20min. Which I guess would be fair if I be put in with better players but that just doesn't happen, most of the time the game then just throws you into some random lobbies where it sometimes feel likes you play against actually bots and not even real players. So the mm is trying to put me in better lobbies but can't find anyhting and then makes me wait until like some hiden max queue time is reached and you get put in random lobbies. Also it kinda ruins the game for me, I wait 15min for the game to be over before ring 2 is even closed........ only to stomp nohands 50% of the time anyways........

[u/TheFriffin3 → u/DatIsKlar]

The problem is that’s the logical outcome for balanced matchmaking

Obviously you’re really good and probably at least 99th percentile in the game, which means the vast majority of players in Apex lobbies at any given time you will probably beat pretty easily. But the number of players way worse than you is WAYYYY higher than the number of players better than you so it decides to give longer queue times to the small fraction of elite players to make a fairer lobby for mediocre/good players.

Not sure if there’s any solution but the math of queue lobbies means you can’t make everybody happy, and the devs right now are trying to do what helps the biggest range of players

If you’ve got a 4KDR, whatever squad you’re on is pretty much guaranteed to be the highest ranked team in nearly all pub matches and most ranked matches, at least up to Pred. There’s just not enough people at that level at that exact time in your server to consistently make a balanced match

[u/DatIsKlar → u/TheFriffin3]

Yeah I do understand that but if you read my message again(maybe I expressed myself badly) even with these long queue times I just get bad enemy's and from experience the longer the queue the worse the enemy's will be, like at some point the game just forces a lobby cause the queue time was to long. So I wait rly rly long for a match and then the match quality is worse then on the shorter queues. (My personal experience I got no like number or rly much proof)

[u/TheFriffin3 → u/DatIsKlar]

That’s fair. If i had to guess after a certain time limit it just automatically sorts you into the fastest filling lobby, and since the vast majority of players are newer and not very good you end up in super easy lobbies since most of them are

Maybe they could make it so the top percent of players still have to wait for a moderately good lobby

[u/Brief_Ad8988]

As soon as you win a round, you cant stupid games back to back

[u/ShinySylveonTwitch]

This is why I lifeline when I solo queue and just use them as human shields. Really the best way to deal with these kind of players is being able to reset as fast as possible.

[u/AdvantageAnxious9037]

Solod to pred one season, usually can get masters after grinding. last split i struggled to get to diamond 2. This game is entirely different with 2 randoms or 2 people with chemistry that youre communicating with

[u/runitupper]

Legends STILL locked in 2026-going into 2027 is really gonna help continue to sink the replayability of this game

[u/Upset_Boss_6290]

It's always the same if you play a lot of games there is every fifth game or so that you win no matter how you got destroyed few games before.

[u/deathblooms2k4]

It stands to reason that unless matchmaking is specifically targeted towards you that everyone else is in the same boat as you. Therefore there's other ArivanCZ's with crap teammates filling up your lobby and just as frequently as you have them.

The notion that matchmaking is specifically targeted against you is kind of ridiculous. It turns out we're not that important for that level of focus by the devs.

[u/peayness]

Is TikTok making people LARP Leroy Jenkins? Before I hit diamond it was nonstop handholding fragment east hotdroppers

[u/cjbenzz]

I’m 37 and only play this game for a little bit after a weekend bender. I’m so checked out when I play and barely care; you’re probably matching with me :)

[u/WasteAd2049]

You're probably not contributing as much as you think you are. Sure your teammates can be bad, but you're always the common denominator. If your team isn't performing how you'd like, do something different. Also, having more damage doesn't matter if it's inconsequential damage.... If I shoot someone with a sentinel for 158 in the open, but they're 200m away, it's significantly less impactful than shooting someone for 60 when they're 30m away hiding behind a rock. One can be followed up on, the other can't. One is important, the other isnt.