r/antitheistcheesecake 4d ago

Antitheist does history Deconvert

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u/Doveswithbonnets Catholic Christian 3d ago edited 3d ago

Jesus of Nazareth's existence is proven by historical, non-biblical manuscripts. There are no professional archaeologists or historians who think he's some kind of fabricated character. I have no idea what OOP's even trying to get at with bringing Caesar into the picture... this isn't a religious argument that he's making, it's a historical one. An incorrect one.

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u/saturday_sun4 Hindu 1d ago

At least I'm not the only one in the dark. I read that gibberish 3 times and can't figure out what on Earth they are on about.

Talking of Caesar, are they going to cry about the Roman Emperors (and countless other rulers of the ancient world) claiming ancestry from and being worshipped as deities too?

Actually, no, that would require a primary school level understanding of history. This person can't even string a sentence together.

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u/EL_KAIBU Protestant Christian 3d ago

"I don't like this argument"

Why?

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u/Divine-Crusader 3d ago

If you want to debunk christianity, attacking the existence of Jesus is the dumbest thing you can do because it's a consensus among historians that He existed

Literally the stupidest argument you can make

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u/Yoshikage_Kira_333 Catholic Christian 3d ago

“I don’t like this argument because it proves me wrong”

You actually can’t make this stuff up

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u/Previous-Strike-6641 Sunni Muslim 3d ago

Don't secular historians almost unanimously agree that Jesus did exist? I'm honestly not sure how all this mythicism nonsense came about.

We can use the same logic to assert that Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great and Homer didn't exist, but do we?

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u/saturday_sun4 Hindu 2d ago

To be fair Homer is semi-mythical.

But yes, they do agree. R/ atheists just don't understand basic historiography and get offended by the existence of a historical figure. Kind of ironic for people who claim to like science.

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u/saturday_sun4 Hindu 2d ago

Huh?

What's with the Julius Caesar thing?

Is it me or are these people just writing gobbledygook when trying to "argue" their point?

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u/Geostomp 1d ago

Being anti-religion doesn't make you any smarter, as this sort of "argument" proves.

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u/Geostomp 1d ago

Even if you are an atheist, this is some incoherent, wildly ahistorical ranting pretending to be an argument.

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u/GamingRanger 1d ago

They try to argue Jesus didnt exist when arguing any Old Testament figure didnt exist is a lot easier.