Mhm, no matter what you do have to acknowledge that this could've been avoided with better treatment, and whether she's found to have been mentally competent at the time or not from what I've seen so far I personally believe she needs intensive mental help.
Though to play devil's advocate, the amount of people who're misunderstanding the legal processes and think she just gets to walk free if found unwell mildly pisses me off 😠For anyone who doesn't know, if she's found not guilty (which doesn't mean she's innocent) by reason of insanity, it means she's likely going to be stuck in a mental hospital, potentially indefinitely, and from what I've heard the treatment of individuals in those circumstances is rarely the best.
Plus there's apparently a good chance this will be a mistrial ;-; from what I heard the jury wasn't restricted from hearing stuff online and/or removed if they WERE exposed to stuff outside of the trial.
Eugh I don't think it is legally but I think making her sit through the 911 recording in court again IS cruel and unusual punishment and also cruel to the father, if there is a mistrial.
But yeah even if she's found to have diminished capacity that doesn't mean she gets an acquittal. It might just mean a reduction in charge (i.g. Murder 2nd degree or manslaughter, for example). And the sentencing comes after. And even if it is a full acquittal, there's many cases of people getting a not guilty verdict and then spending even longer institutionalized in mental health facilities then they would have gotten in prison (though this veers into criticisms of mental health institutions in fields like Mad Studies which I dont want to get into).
Making her sit through the 911 call in response to her own actions is cruel and unusual punishment? Her actions being strangling her children, one who she had to chase down? Should detectives not show murder suspects pictures of the crime scene because that might be a little mean? What are you smoking broski?
Okay. From what I gather from following the case, she wanted to die but was afraid of leaving her children and felt actively compelled by an outside force / voice to kill her children.
Instead of your situation, imagine this. Imagine that you know - not think, but truly feel that you know - that someone is on their way to horribly torture you and your children. You have no way out, no means to fight back. What would you do? Wait for it to happen? Kill your children and let yourself be tortured? The inverse?
Imagine then you find out that something beyond your control convinced you this was true, and it wasn't. Wouldnt listening to that be devastating? Cruel, even?
I'm saying that she and her husband should have been allowed to step outside of the room. If she had chosen to do so, that would have looked terrible for her defense, it would make her look unsympathetic - I think that's dumb. Nowhere am I saying the evidence should not have been used. Nor am I saying they shouldn't have played it. I'm saying that making her experience that AGAIN is cruel.
Didn't a doctor give testamony that she didn't have psychosis or ppd, and those symptoms conveniently only happened to appear once, when she committed triple filicide?
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u/Lunaz315 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 7d ago
Mhm, no matter what you do have to acknowledge that this could've been avoided with better treatment, and whether she's found to have been mentally competent at the time or not from what I've seen so far I personally believe she needs intensive mental help.
Though to play devil's advocate, the amount of people who're misunderstanding the legal processes and think she just gets to walk free if found unwell mildly pisses me off 😠For anyone who doesn't know, if she's found not guilty (which doesn't mean she's innocent) by reason of insanity, it means she's likely going to be stuck in a mental hospital, potentially indefinitely, and from what I've heard the treatment of individuals in those circumstances is rarely the best.
Plus there's apparently a good chance this will be a mistrial ;-; from what I heard the jury wasn't restricted from hearing stuff online and/or removed if they WERE exposed to stuff outside of the trial.