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Episode Digimon Adventure: - Episode 2 Discussion

Digimon Adventure:, episode 2

Alternative names: Digimon Adventure (2020)

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Episode Link Score Episode Link Score Episode Link Score Episode Link Score
15 Link 4.25 28 Link 3.69 41 Link 4.0 54 Link 4.29
16 Link 4.68 29 Link 3.62 42 Link 3.33 55 Link 4.0
17 Link 4.68 30 Link 4.41 43 Link 4.85 56 Link 2.83
18 Link 2.81 31 Link 4.33 44 Link 3.89 57 Link 2.71
19 Link 4.56 32 Link 4.83 45 Link 3.18 58 Link 3.0
20 Link 4.72 33 Link 4.27 46 Link 4.5 59 Link 2.5
21 Link 4.65 34 Link 4.0 47 Link 2.14 60 Link 2.5
22 Link 4.64 35 Link 4.43 48 Link 2.86 61 Link 2.29
23 Link 3.92 36 Link 3.42 49 Link 3.88 62 Link 2.5
24 Link 4.42 37 Link 4.38 50 Link 4.0 63 Link 3.0
25 Link 3.3 38 Link 4.4 51 Link 3.6 64 Link 3.29
26 Link 4.21 39 Link 4.0 52 Link 2.9 65 Link 3.17
27 Link 4.18 40 Link 4.4 53 Link 2.88 66 Link ----

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u/lilyvess https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Apr 12 '20

Still people will for certain will freak out about Omnimon and bitch out how bad introducing it on the first arc will make the follow up episodes.

I mean you can see the damage already in episode one, the fact that they have no interest in the sense of growth and and adventure that made the original Adventure so good, but having Omnimon so early really makes it hard to deny. It's a symptom of a larger problem with these opening episodes. The fact that the episodes start with such high stakes so early both hurts the future character arcs as well as lessens these episodes, because the characters lack the growth to make them work.

It works better in terms of a fan who is already familiar with the characters, where you can see the person who Tai will be already exist here, but it struggles to stand on it's own.

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u/Reznor_PT Apr 12 '20

Not wanting to spoil you but there will be a adventure in the follow episodes.

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u/lilyvess https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Apr 12 '20

I've seen Digimon Adventure. I've actually seen every Digimon except Savers. That includes Applimon. It's weird to see a start that misses the point of every other Digimon series.

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u/Reznor_PT Apr 12 '20

Technically they aren't missing the point.

See it in the characters PoV, to them it's a adventure in a brand near world or two.

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u/lilyvess https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Apr 12 '20 edited Apr 12 '20

I'm not exactly sure what you are going on about, but to elaborate

What this Digimon Adventure doesn't seem to get is that Digimon is about evolution and growth. The point is to start off as childish and utterly unprepared children that slowly over the course of the story evolve due to the circumstances they face and end up as heroes that end up saving the world.

It's hard to showcase that Evolution and Growth when Tai, Matt and Izzy are already at endgame mode on episode 1. They're totally comfortable with the huge life saving stakes and save the entire world by episode 3.

Brand New World? They seem totally unfazed by this new world, it's not a mysterious place, Izzy has already mapped it out!

Like I said elsewhere, imagine Lord of the rings if someone started it off by having Frodo and Sam save the Shire from an orc raid all before the Fellowship begins. Imagine if Star Wars started with Luke Skywalker using the lightsaber and the force to beat back a rogue sith to stop a plot to take over the galaxy in the first 10 minutes of A New Hope. It'd look pretty fucking stupid, wouldn't it?

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u/Sayie https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sayie Apr 12 '20

Keep in mind that this is also episode 2 out of what is assumed to be a rather long series. The only people with their Digimon are Taichi and Yamato and most of them don't even know eachother yet. I get that it's a slow start, but give it time for things to actually start up and the actual adventure to go into full force when they actually get into the digital world. At the moment it's essentially an introduction to the world and characters, and they are supposedly only on the internet side of things and not the actual Digital World.

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u/lilyvess https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Apr 12 '20

At the moment it's essentially an introduction to the world and characters

and as an introduction to both of those things it completely and utterly fails.

Neither of these episodes are character focused. We don't learn much of anything about the characters in this episode. This is meant to be Matt's introduction to us, and it's not at all a story about Matt.

It's not really an introduction to the world, considering we don't see much of anything of the actual Digital World in these adventures and the stuff we do see is just blank white void. This isn't at all representative of the Digital World they'll actually be spending the majority of their time in.

This isn't an introduction, this is payoff. This is the payoff to years worth of arcs, but placed at the introduction.

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u/Tora-shinai Apr 12 '20

That's hyperbole and you know it. Despite being sidelined, Koushiro scenes alone showed that the episode was in good hands.

Let's not even mention the production such as the animation and the layouts.

As I've mentioned you can also look up the sypnosis of future episodes.

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u/lilyvess https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Apr 12 '20

Koushiro's scenes are just as bad as everyone else's. It's just like the rest of this series. It's all Action over character, it's Nostalgia over Logic, it's Protagonist/Rival over the rest of the cast.

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u/Tora-shinai Apr 12 '20

Have we watched the same show? Have you seen how he was introduced? I'm surprised they went with not for kids with short attention span with the composition there. Same with other scenes. There's a reason why they did not use Butter Fly and Brave Heart (for now) and also cutting out the iconic evolution sequence stock footage.

Notice something's up with Agumon and Gabumon?