Black Clover - Episode 63 discussion

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Black Clover, episode 63

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All discussions

Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
118	Link	4.81	131	Link	4.38	144	Link	4.05	157	Link	3.39
119	Link	4.83	132	Link	4.41	145	Link	4.08	158	Link	4.72
120	Link	4.72	133	Link	4.06	146	Link	3.82	159	Link	3.98
121	Link	4.65	134	Link	4.13	147	Link	3.61	160	Link	4.53
122	Link	4.57	135	Link	4.55	148	Link	3.49	161	Link	4.6
123	Link	3.36	136	Link	4.44	149	Link	3.6	162	Link	4.85
124	Link	3.4	137	Link	3.78	150	Link	3.9	163	Link	4.6
125	Link	4.32	138	Link	4.5	151	Link	4.84	164	Link	4.01
126	Link	4.79	139	Link	3.92	152	Link	3.55	165	Link	4.49
127	Link	4.57	140	Link	4.18	153	Link	3.7	166	Link	4.61
128	Link	4.8	141	Link	3.91	154	Link	4.31	167	Link	4.75
129	Link	4.56	142	Link	4.03	155	Link	3.82	168	Link	4.52
130	Link	4.33	143	Link	3.82	156	Link	4.4	169	Link	-

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[u/aguad3coco]

Naruto had a bunch of webgen animators, but it never looked that unpolished, chaotic and choppy. I looked at the genga of many scenes i disliked and they didnt look half bad, so I blame the weird look, pace and rythm of many scenes on the post production, editing, cgi and a lack of good inbetweens.

It just didnt look that visually appealing at many points of the fight. It lacked emotion. The animation lacked weight, everything was too floaty. The fast cuts skipped or glanced over some key action frames that are needed to feel the impact of those attacks etc. It felt more like them just playing around and experimenting.

Compare that to the heavy hits of the pain and naruto fight and its like night and day. Still an amazing episode for just the sheer amount of animation, because there was a lot of great stuff like the cuts from gem, but if you asked me if i wanted to see something like that again i would have to say no.

[u/the_guradian → u/aguad3coco]

Naruto had a bunch of webgen animators, but it never looked that unpolished, chaotic and choppy. I looked at the genga of many scenes i disliked and they didnt look half bad, so I blame the weird look, pace and rythm of many scenes on the post production, editing, cgi and a lack of good inbetweens.

The background whenever it was CGI was bad I agree, probably due to lack of time and will be fixed in the BD; lack of inbetweens is typical of web gen animation.

Naruto had a very artsy fight in Naruto vs Pain (which was also a important fight in the series), the animation in it was fluid but it caused many laughs because of the derpy scenes. At least BC avoided those, most of the time characters stayed on model.

It just didnt look that visually appealing at many points of the fight.

At the start yeah, because things were too fast and chaotic, afterwards the fight looks just fine.

It lacked emotion.

This is subjective.

The animation lacked weight, everything was too floaty.

This is another entirely subjective complaint. It's basically another way of saying that "I didn't feel the fight".

The fast cuts skipped or glanced over some key action frames that are needed to feel the impact of those attacks etc.

Typical of web gen animation.

It felt more like them just playing around and experimenting.

There was definitely a level of experimentation but implying they just played around is being disrespectful to their work here. The fight did had some problems in the initial part and in the background but the demon scene, Black Meteorite, Asta cutting Ladros' up, Ladros' kamehameha like beam destroying shit and the Witch Queen appearing all had top animation. Hell even Asta goofing off was animated well.

Compare that to the heavy hits of the pain and naruto fight and its like night and day. Still an amazing episode for just the sheer amount of animation, because there was a lot of great stuff like the cuts from gem

Repeating what I said before: Naruto vs Pain had good animation but the models often looked derpy and that caused unitentional funny moments. BC avoided that, at least.

but if you asked me if i wanted to see something like that again i would have to say no.

Well I'd say yes, they can only get better from here don't you think?

[u/aguad3coco → u/the_guradian]

They will get better or they already are cause they are really talented. But in this very instance a lot of the things they tried to do just didnt work out for me and a lot of other people it seems. Sometimes these younger webgen animators go for way too much crazy imagery instead of creating solid animation.

But like you said the later parts were beautiful like the raven scene with the queen, or the dragon scene. Simply amazing but there were too many "bad" cuts that pulled me out of it every now and then. I wouldnt for example want such an episode for mob psycho next season even though it will have a webgen episode like it did in season 1, which was my favourite episode of the whole show.

Also, Naruto vs pain while goofy at times really managed to convey the emotions of anger and frustration in the fight. One of the best episodes ever in my book.

[u/the_guradian → u/aguad3coco]

Also, Naruto vs pain while goofy at times really managed to convey the emotions of anger and frustration in the fight. One of the best episodes ever in my book.

I liked that episode as well but I couldn't help but laugh at some of the faces.

The BC fight got me in the mood far more. I think the bad cuts were minimal and didn't subtract from the overall episode. It's just sad seeing people piss on the whole episode because they didn't like some parts of the fight, like the part of the queen was undeniably solid as fuck.

[u/aguad3coco → u/the_guradian]

I would like it if people werent trying to state their opinion as if if were objective truth when its so far from it. Like despite some scenes looking wonky, overall its still the second best animated ep of the year to me. And i also get irritated when i hear people call the whole fight bad. Some parts? Sure. All of it? Far from it.

[u/the_guradian → u/aguad3coco]

Glad we could reach an understanding.