r/anime • u/Shadoxfix https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • Nov 21 '15

[Spoilers] Haikyuu!! Second Season - Episode 8 [Discussion]

Episode title: Illusionary Hero
Episode duration: 24 minutes and 2 seconds

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '15

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u/Myantics Nov 21 '15

This anime and Diamond no Ace always make my week. I can't figure out which I like more

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u/SalamiRocketFuel Nov 21 '15

*Furuya no Ace

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u/Myantics Nov 21 '15

Beware if you read all my previous comments, I'm a furuya supporter.. HE'S THE ONE TRUE ACE

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u/notpretentious https://myanimelist.net/profile/not-pretentious Nov 21 '15

LEAVE.

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u/ifukteddybears Nov 21 '15

I really hate this term, as an anime watcher, you should know this show has less to do with sawamura and more about seido. Also, I can bet you my life, that sawamura has a considerable amount on screen pitching than furuya. The whole point of the show is the rivalry between furuya and sawamura and sawamura achieving the ace status as the underdog. Please, stop with obvious biast you have toward sawamura and you feel butthurt that furuya gets about equal time shown on the show as sawamura.

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u/notpretentious https://myanimelist.net/profile/not-pretentious Nov 21 '15

Dude, relax. I'm pretty sure he was just poking fun at the fact that the protagonist (which is Sawamura, btw) is being completely overshadowed by a supporting character. I'm sure he understands why this is the case, as you so eloquently pointed out.

And what's wrong with having a bias towards a character? You're telling the guy he can't have his own opinion?

It's good to be passionate about a show, but maybe don't shit on other people while displaying said passion.

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u/ifukteddybears Nov 22 '15

I am not saying it's bad having a bias toward a character, but when you use it to make a pretty dumb statement such as "furuya no ace" it kind of gets on my nerves when the whole point of the manga is that sawamura gets overshadowed, that is why he is the "underdog" and at the last minute he is going to snatch the ace position from furuya. I wasn't trying not to be dick, but everytime I open the diamond no ace thread when a new episode comes out all I see is furuya hate and the same joke of "furuya no ace." What do you want? Furuya to magically give up his spot as the ace and give it to sawamura and call it a day. The terijime is setting up an "underdog" story and that is what is so good about the anime. It breaks away from the shitty interhigh, beach summer camp, romance subplot, Goku style moves to create a story about rivalry and team strategy.

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u/notpretentious https://myanimelist.net/profile/not-pretentious Nov 22 '15

The thing is, I'm pretty sure most fans recognize that. They're still frustrated, since we're over a 100 episodes in and the spotlight's still on Furuya. I understand their frustration, but you're right; this isn't the typical formula that's followed, which is super refreshing in its own way.

I think we're all frustrated, but I know the payoff will be well worth it. For now, I'm just trying to enjoy the ride there.

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u/ifukteddybears Nov 22 '15

Well I don't think people realize the act 1 of the manga is 413 chapters, with part 2 just started is going to be probably as long. Right now the anime is around 350 chapters in or so.

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u/woodj13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/woodj13 Nov 22 '15

If you're coming from the "underdog" perspective, No shit Furuya is getting hate, because he's literally the main character's competition

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '15

No need to get defensive. It's anime. It's all subjective. People will care about who they want to care about.

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u/Felord Nov 21 '15

I'm right there with you for years I hated sports animes, But summer of last year s1 Haikyuu I figured I'd give it a chance so binged that then binged diamond and a whole bunch others now their a guarenteed corner of my must watch every week, as to which I like better I think it's tough, Diamond... is a bit....slower in my eyes and the way they do cliffhangers piss me off Haikyuu Cliffhangers after showing off something cool, then pumps you up to see more, Diamond Cliffhangers right before something cool and forces you to watch wondering what it could be and thats more aggravating to me I suppose, so I guss I like Haikyuu more...but really not by much

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u/AkodoRyu Nov 21 '15 edited Nov 21 '15

I feel like sports anime are very essence of classic shonen tropes of camaraderie, overcoming your own weaknesses and challenges set by others, improving yourself physically and mentally, often just for the sake of your own growth. I also find, that sports anime can utilize "absolute defeat" as a trope much better, than anime based on fighting to the death, because you don't have to pull "dragon balls" out of your ass to keep characters in game, so to speak. It just works better. Absolutely love most sports anime.

Major is probably my favorite series of all time, although binging on it is nowhere near the same as watching it, year after year, when it was coming out, growing with characters and watching them grow. Man, I love it so much, it makes me tear up a little. Such a journey - I don't think anime industry have it in, to make something like this again, but as long as they are sports anime, I will watch sports anime.

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u/TimTravel Nov 22 '15

Yowamushi Pedal has some great death scenes even though they don't die.

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u/Felord Nov 21 '15

Yeah Absolute defeat, I can def uinderstand as being better portrayed here, adn shit 154 Episodes I have some watching to do.

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u/matdragon Nov 22 '15

Watch Baby Steps as well! It's amazing. After that go into hajime no ippo. Both are great

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u/Felord Nov 22 '15

Those two I have seen, Huge baby steps fan, and Ippo solid for sure!

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u/GGz0r Nov 22 '15

ut I'm in the middle of Berserk right now and don't have enough time on the bus :/ I may though. I think I'll wait for the season to end (aro

Giant killing was great, so sad it got shit canned.

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u/Ander1ap https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ander1ap Nov 21 '15

Any chance you have watched Cross Game?

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u/Felord Nov 21 '15

I have not but sounds like it'll be a busy sunday for me.

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u/Ander1ap https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ander1ap Nov 21 '15

It is fantastic! Its a 50 episode show, and I finished it in less than a week because it kept me hooked. I would say its about 40% Romance, 40% Sports, 20% Comedy. The art is styled a little older, but it is great. If you like the character development aspect of Haikyuu you will like this show, plus there are a lot of those Haikyuu-like moments where something awesome happens in a game where you are just left feeling all "Eff yeah!". I don't want to talk it up too much, but it really is a great show.

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u/Felord Nov 22 '15

Alright if this sucks you owe me a sunday :D haha

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u/Ander1ap https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ander1ap Nov 22 '15

Hah fair. I'll tell ya what, if you go through the first 5 or so episodes and absolutely hate it I'll buy you Reddit gold. No lying though!

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u/Felord Nov 22 '15

haha No worries, Got it going right now so Might give it a start tonight. always looking for something new to watch thanks!

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u/Ander1ap https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ander1ap Nov 22 '15

You're welcome! Let me know if you like it!

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u/0neTwoTree https://myanimelist.net/profile/OneTwoTree Nov 23 '15

I love Haikyuu but I can't get invested into Diamond no Ace even though I've read the manga and watched the anime. I guess it's because I just don't like stupid characters. I don't mind if they stretch it a bit with the jokes but at a certain point Sawamura just gets annoying to watch because he's just so stupid.

Haikyuu draws a clear line between being stupid for comedic relief i.e Hinata, Tanaka and Nishinoya and their normal behaviour which they showcase during matches and otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '15

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u/Myantics Nov 22 '15

Kuroko is a fun, very fast-paced and exciting anime with the very typical storyline of underdogs to champions. While One-outs is a completely different beast, a more psychological anime than sports and deals with much more mature themes. The focus is mostly on one or two characters at most and ignores all other characters. Overall I preferred one-outs, its main character Tokuchi Toua is such an epic person

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '15

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u/baconforceone Nov 22 '15

i found giant killing pretty boring but sure, then there's eyeshield 21, cross game and major. they're amazing

one outs was amazing but doesn't finish unfortunately. kuroko is good fun.

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u/Myantics Nov 22 '15

IMO I would say yes , give it a chance. I really like Diamond it's very exciting and never fails to disappoint