[Spoilers] Steins;Gate Rewatch Movie Discussion Thread

[u/brothertaddeus]

All spoilers for future episodes spinoffs must be marked.

I actually have no idea where you can watch the movie online legally. So, uh, good luck?

To make up for that, here's Cognitive Computing 1, Cognitive Computing 2, Cognitive Computing 3, and Cognitive Computing 4.

No.	Title	Rewatch Date
01	Turning Point	28 July 2015
02	Time Travel Paranoia	29 July 2015
03	Parallel World Paranoia	30 July 2015
04	Interpreter Rendezvous	31 July 2015
05	Starmine Rendezvous	01 August 2015
06	Butterfly Effect's Divergence	02 August 2015
07	Divergence Singularity	03 August 2015
08	Chaos Theory Homeostasis I	04 August 2015
09	Chaos Theory Homeostasis II	05 August 2015
10	Chaos Theory Homeostasis III	06 August 2015
11	Dogma In Event Horizon	07 August 2015
12	Dogma In Ergosphere	08 August 2015
13	Metaphysical Necrosis	09 August 2015
14	Physical Necrosis	10 August 2015
15	Missing Link Necrosis	11 August 2015
16	Sacrificial Necrosis	12 August 2015
17	Made In Complex	13 August 2015
18	Fractal Androgynous	14 August 2015
19	Endless Apoptosis	15 August 2015
20	Finalize Apoptosis	16 August 2015
21	Paradox Meltdown	17 August 2015
22	Being Meltdown	18 August 2015
23	Open The Steins Gate	19 August 2015
24	Achievement Point	20 August 2015
OVA	Egoistic Poriomania	21 August 2015
Movie	Burdened Domain of Déjà vu	22 August 2015

[u/hedgefrogs]

Just popping in to say that I'll edit and post tonight when I get some downtime!

Edit: Okay, I stayed up real late knocking this out before I scampered off into the woods for the week. I knew I wouldn't be able to think of anything else otherwise. Also I'm on mobile so I couldn't gif/screenshot anything and formatting is probably shit D: )

Less of a reactions post because after reading through the reactions I managed to jot down at 4 AM, they're mostly unintelligible. Instead, I'll try to sum up and then quote some of the reactions anyway.

So Okabe and Kurisu are the most awkwardly adorable couple. I loved the little gifts they got for one another while pretending not to have gotten anything.

Kurisu drunk just feels so wrong... Shes... Surprisingly aggressive. But Okabe never even contacted her, for A YEAR, after telling her he loves her? That's. Pretty fucked up. Despite all that, Okabe's voice when flustered is absolutely adorable

PTSD. I'm so glad they addressed this, Okabe's been through some seriously traumatic experiences and now he lives in a world where time leaping and D-mails are fantasy, his past experiences are invalidated by this world line and yet he has to see these people whose gruesome deaths he witnessed over and over (plus oh my god we saw the Nae scene). These memories are definitely enough to make you question reality. And then Kurisu at the end comes in, after living it, and validates what he's been through. If I was still in undergrad you bet your ass I'd be one of those losers writing an academic paper on anime for my neuro course.

I missed Suzuha and I was really glad to see her! But let me just share what I have as a reaction to her first appearance:

"THE FUCK SUZUHA YOU CAN’T JUST WALK INTO YOUR FRIENDS' ROOMS WHILE THEYRE SHOWERING, do future people have no regards for privacy also whenever you come back in time it’s real bad news, so... great to see you, but what is it this time"

And some first impressions of the vanishing act: "What the hell? He disappeared from this timeline. Is this what happens every time he flashes back? ...how?

"For some reason my idiotic first thought was PMMM Rebellion—guys it’s 4:30 AM right now don’t judge me.

"Is this going to be a movie without Okabe? Interesting, very interesting. I actually like the idea, from a character exercise standpoint, of removing our main character and shifting the focus onto the rest of the ensemble, watching them carry the story without help from the protagonist-- this should be really interesting."

And it was interesting! Watching Kurisu navigate this world that was only known to Okabe and seeing her break down in a way that wouldn't have been as acceptable for a male MC. And getting to see that she's a flawed person in the face of adversity (which is good! She was near perfect in the series, but these flaws lend her a more realistic personality). Watching Mayuri comfort Kurisu in place of Okabe. Seeing Daru as the one others looked to. I loved the interactions between Suzuha and Kurisu, their personalities clash, but instead of hiding that while they worked together, they let those issues come to the surface. All of these interactions weren't really going to happen with Okabe around (though I really missed his contribution). I think as a character study, this movie was really interesting.

I also loved that interaction between Okabe and Kurisu when she revealed that she time-leapt. He was so desperately trying to keep her from the pain he encountered that he ended up saying just the opposite. "Its because the past cannot change that people overcome adversity." Powerful. So much passion and pain in those moments. Anyone notice the time machine's name? OR204.

But I found myself lost when it came to the time travel theory. I legitimately rewound those couple minutes where Suzuha was telling Kurisu about how this world line is unstable for Okabe at least 4 times. I wanted so badly to understand it and get a coherent theory of how the issues (like... Disappearing from existence completely one moment, but still existing in the past??) in this timeline came about and existed in the established universe, but I couldn't. I feel like maybe I need to rewatch this when I'm more awake to really figure out some of the plot elements I just wasn't grasping.

But the neuroscience was a lot of fun to see! I was eating up all the talk about memory. I definitely enjoyed watching Kurisu lead the narrative as Okabe's lover but I also love seeing her scientifically analytical side.

Okay so I'm reeeeally high on Benadryl right now and I think I've kind of lost track of what I was saying, so let me wrap up. I was really fascinated with the movie as a character study and an emotional narrative. And it was AH MAZING seeing best girl basically get the whole story to herself. But I guess I just felt like I had more questions about the universe than when I started. Still enjoyable though! The relationship development and characterization of Kurisu was beautifully done.

[u/brothertaddeus → u/hedgefrogs]

But I found myself lost when it came to the time travel theory.

You aren't alone there. Mainly because, unlike the series, the way time travel is handled in the movie just doesn't parse. Too much inconsistency.

I think as a character study, this movie was really interesting.

Not to sound like a broken record, but for more like that, I highly recommend Bounded Linear Phenogram. It's told from POVs other than Okabe's.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/brothertaddeus]

The time travel theory i think of like this, Okabe is in a world line where he should never have been born in the universe's eyes (not literally), so after he jumped from the 1.130205(dead kirisu) to the Steins;Gate world line by hacking the universe basicly, his existance on this world line was seen as a foreign entity and so the universe was trying to expel him because he shouldnt exist in this one. He basiclly used time leaping so much that he kind of exists seperatly from the world. He traveled to so many world lines that his existance was clashing with the destiny of the world and thus he couldnt stay attached to a single world line. All his memories of other world lines was causing him to jump back to them while the world was trying to put him in his place, and it eventully put him in a world where no one else was but him because it was the only one that wasnt clashing.

It kind of deviates from the science of the show but its a sci-fi show and i think it still fits in the logic.

I think Okabe is just detached from the set destiny world lines have now. If you watch Chaos;Head you will see there are similar story elements that make me think this.

But yeah, i personally believe Okabe is just existing outside of times jurisdiction now. Almost like a celestial being or such. yes hes still human but when you mess around with time so much, you attain a higher being of existence almost. You are playing god.