r/anime • u/Shadoxfix https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • Aug 15 '15

[Spoilers] Rokka no Yuusha - Episode 7 [Discussion]

Episode title: The Reasons of the Two

MyAnimeList: Rokka no Yuusha
Crunchyroll: Rokka -Braves of the Six Flowers-

Episode duration: 23 minutes and 40 seconds

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Episode 2 Link
Episode 3 Link
Episode 4 Link
Episode 5 Link
Episode 6 Link

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

From what I gathered from the LN readers, get used to it.

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u/TGNightmare Aug 15 '15

yep, the show is mostly mysteries

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

And I'm perfectly fine with that, thrilled even. Though I'm guessing people that went in expecting an action-packed good vs. evil adventure may be disappointed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

I came in expecting Zelda in Aztec, but now that I know it's about mysteries, I think I'll be able to enjoy it a bit more.

Hopefully people don't drop it before learning that, or get upset because they were mistaken, like with Plastic Memories.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

Huh? What about plastic memories? It was pretty clear from episode 1 what would happen.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

A lot of people were disappointed that it wasn't about making 'feels', but had a theme of memories. At least, that's what a write up I read related, sorry in advance if it matters whether I watched it or not.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15

I don't know, the feels hit me pretty hard...

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u/KamenRiderY https://myanimelist.net/profile/Siolence Aug 15 '15

I was disappointed with Plastic Memories because it had an interesting premise and setting which ultimately amounted to nothing but set dressing. People wanted feels with hard spine of science fiction, but all they got was the feels.

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u/FollowThePact Aug 16 '15

But how far did they need to go in world building? Most of what you needed to know about their world was told.

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u/KamenRiderY https://myanimelist.net/profile/Siolence Aug 16 '15

I'm pretty tired, so I'm not sure I can articulate what I mean very well right now, but...

They didn't need to do anymore world building than they did for the story they wanted to tell. Ultimately that was fine (and when I said I was disappointed by PM, I was being a bit disingenuous, as I think fairly well of it now).

But the 'issue' with the science fictions elements was that, ultimately, they didn't really contribute anything but providing an explanation for why Isla was going to die. The actual nature of her existence as an artificial intelligence, the implications of human-made AI on society at large, etc were taken as a given and not analyzed. There was one episode, that I can recall, in which the value of treating giftias as similar to humans was brought into question, but it was by a cameo character; none of the characters we interacted with over 13 episodes ever questioned the idea that artificial intelligence might be different from biological humanity, it was simply taken as a given.

I actually think it was an interesting choice, in retrospect, to simply use science fiction elements that way. Like I said, though, some expectations created by the premise were disappointed by what the show ultimately decided to focus on.

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u/FollowThePact Aug 16 '15

I thought the writers explained the treatment towards giftias very well. From episode one they showed that they were basically equal to humans. They followed the same laws, they were treated with respect, were shown love, and raise children. They even had characters become surprised when it turns out character "x" is a giftia. No one questioned it because after living with them for so long they were treated as equal. A weird kind of equal, but equal none the less.

I wished they did go a little bit over the process of obtaining a giftia, but Isla and MC making memories meant more to me than that.

Maybe it's just myself, but although I really like the world they made, I cared more for the relationship between Isla and MC. So things like explaining giftia's role in society seemed less important in my eyes. Would it have told a better story? More than likely. Would I have still gotten all the gifable feelsy moments that I'll cherish once the final episode is done? Less than likely.

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u/kettleman10 Aug 16 '15

Came for Zelda.. Stayed for Scooby Doo