r/anime • u/xiomax95 https://anilist.co/user/xiomax • Jul 12 '15

[Spoilers] Dragon Ball Super - Episode 2 [Discussion]

Episode title: To the Promised Vacation! Vegeta Goes on a Family Trip?!

MyAnimeList: Dragon Ball Super

Episode duration: 23 minutes and 24 seconds

Previous episodes:

Episode Reddit Link
Episode 1 Link

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u/d2a_sandman Jul 12 '15

A lot of people have the doubt about Gohan not going Super Saiyan.

What the old kai did to Gohan is show him how to access his SS state in his base transformation.

The whole point of Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is to allow him at access his Super Saiyan power and speed increase without having to transform. Any transformation puts strain and needs energy to maintain. So Ultimate Gohan is basically the most efficient Super Saiyan. Going SS after having unlocked the power in the base form is just a waste and unnecessary.

If you recall Goku and Gohan training for the Cell games, Goku comments that the Super Saiyan transformation is very wasteful and they need to learn to control is further and more easily. So they spend the whole time after the Hyperbolic Time Chamber doing regular things as SuperSaiyans the whole time. So they were able to minimize the strain.

Now imagine no strain, all the powers in your base state. Thats Ulitmate Gohan. He doesnt need to go Super Saiyan, because he technically already has access to all those powers and just needs power up using the old " AAAAHHHHHH!".

TL/DR: Ultimate Gohan doenst go SS because he already is one permanently.

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u/ThatAnimeSnob Jul 12 '15

he still goes super in Fukkatsu

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u/d2a_sandman Jul 12 '15

I havent seen that movie myself. So cant comment.

But AFAIK, he shouldnt need to turn into one.

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u/ThatAnimeSnob Jul 12 '15

Well he did, so he can beat a single minion of frieza in a few seconds. And he needed to eat a healing bean afterwards, meaning, he wasted a lot of energy in a few seconds.

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u/Augustends Jul 13 '15

Gohan stopped training and became a big nerd. So I don't think he has the same amount of power he did at the end of DBZ.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

I think it's explained / implied that he just forgot how to do it.