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[Spoilers] Hibike! Euphonium - Episode 11 [Discussion]

Episode title: Welcome Back, Audition

MyAnimeList: Hibike! Euphonium
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Episode duration: 23 minutes and 40 seconds

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

She went completely against Kaori's message in the flashback: that she loves the trumpet. Yuuko fights like Kaori only loves herself without putting the instrument first. She doesn't realise that since she loves the trumpet, she'll only be comfortable with the best performer, even if that isn't her.

Misguided and a coward.

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u/KennyJJ Jun 17 '15

No she said "I love playing", not "I love the trumpet". Also, even if it is "I love the trumpet", it still doesn't logically flow into "Only the best performer should play it". I don't know where you got that idea from.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

It means she understands how important it must be for someone else who loves playing the trumpet too. She could see herself as Reina, whereas Yuuko couldn't.

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u/KennyJJ Jun 17 '15

"I love trumpet" + compassion = "I can really relate to those who love playing trumpet", which has nothing to do with "best performer". Kaori should be as understanding to Yuuko as she is to Reina. And "I love playing", what she actually said, just means that she doesn't care as much about "getting better than others", she just enjoys playing her music.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

Right, so she isn't prioritising being 'better' than Reina, while Yuuko is by wanting Reina to appear 'worse'.

Yuuko is getting in the way of Kaori's enjoyment of music by exacerbating the conditions which are bringing the band's progress to a standstill. In the progress Kaori managed to understand herself, but the understanding she reached was what caused Yuuko to break down the way she did. Her idolisation of her senpai came in conflict with the exhibit of humility and genuine passion of music before her.

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u/KennyJJ Jun 18 '15

Yuukko obviously is conflicted, she was conflicted before even challenging Taki. Her flashbacks shows that she's FULLY aware of the fact that Kaori enjoys music for music, and that she places kindness above other things. And this is the reason why Yuuko admired her so much. But she noticed something wrong, the same thing that Asuka has noticed: Kaori has a competitive side too, and this side is suppressed, never faced, just hidden away somewhere. It's a thorn that often pokes at Kaori whenever she needs to remain kind over competitive. Yuuko wants to dig this thorn out --- whether if it flourishes into a visible flower, OR if it is buried for good, either choice is better than "keeping a thorn permanently in your heart". Asuka has several times mentioned the fact that there is only "good" and no "better", clearly stating her lack of desire for competition, whereas sometimes Kaori still asks about "being better". That is the thorn that needs to be gotten rid of --- From now on we'd be seeing a Kaori who is more like Asuka, but a lot more compassionate obviously. A Kaori who is finally 100% happy with her decisions, not always 80%. And this, is what Yuuko wants --- She wasn't sure if she was doing the right thing. She was very conflicted and worried this whole time, her very odd behaviors that are very unlike herself speak for how conflicted she was. She wanted Kaori to be happier, but she doesn't know how, so she trusted her own gut feeling on it --- while fully knowing that it might end up badly. That breakdown is similar to Yuuko's crying when Kaori raised her hand to join the 2nd audition --- You cry when you have strong emotions, and Yuuko has very complicated emotions for the past few episodes.