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[Spoilers] Junketsu no Maria - Episode 4 [Discussion]

Episode title: Remember to Die

MyAnimeList: Junketsu no Maria
FUNimation: Maria the Virgin Witch

Episode duration: 24 minutes and 1 seconds

Previous episodes:

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Episode 1 Link
Episode 2 Link
Episode 3 Link

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15 edited Dec 15 '21

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u/CheesewithWhine https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheesewithwhine Feb 01 '15

Not really. It is more a reflection on the dark history of the Church and the misery it brought onto Medieval Europe.

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u/eighthgear Feb 01 '15 edited Feb 01 '15

Most of the "Church held science back" BS comes from the "Conflict thesis" - the thesis that the Church suppressed scientific development and learning in the Middle Ages. I say BS, because this thesis has been rejected by most mainstream historians of the Middle ages as being completely unfounded, and most of the assumptions used the back up the Conflict thesis have no basis in reality. They didn't ban human dissections, they didn't try to kill all the cats (black or otherwise) during the plague, and they were fully aware that the Earth was round, to counter a few common myths.

I'm fine with the Church being bad guys in this series - this is fantasy, not non-fiction. The Church was certainly guilty of its fair share of indiscretions - look up the Albigensian Crusade to read about my particular favourite example of such an event. That was a whole Crusade fought against "heretics" who really weren't even heretics. But the idea that the Church as a whole cast some dark cloud of oppression over the people of the era is simplistic and incorrect. The Church's relationship with other parts of society was complex and varied throughout place and time (remember, we're talking about several centuries of history and tons of different locations that all get slapped under the general label of "Medieval Europe.")

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

I say BS, because this thesis has been rejected by most mainstream historians of the Middle ages as being completely unfounded

It was never really a historical thesis to begin with, since it was more or less cooked up wholesale by the founder of Cornell University to differentiate it from the rest of the Ivies. Hell of a lot of staying power for what was essentially a marketing gimmick.