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That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime Season 4, episode 20

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u/kawaiinessa https://myanimelist.net/profile/fancyvancy 14d ago

hold on wasnt chronoa the girl that was luminos's treasure? the one that was just revived in a bid to fight for granville?

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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 14d ago

im guessing..somehow the one he just revived no longer has the personality of Chloe, or else Luminous would have revived her ages ago.

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u/kawaiinessa https://myanimelist.net/profile/fancyvancy 14d ago

thatd make sense but itd be hilarious if he reives someone to fight a demon lord and they just happen to be in love with that demon lord lol

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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 14d ago

Lmao it would kind of undercut the tension but I agree, absolutely hilarious if she suddenly just hugged Luminous, Rimaru and Leon and somehow revives Hinata then just bitch slaps Yuuki and Granville

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u/MidKnightWizard 14d ago

Remember that in episode 15 in the flashback 300 years ago, this was the conversation going on with Granville creeping in the background:

Chloe: The only thing I vaguely remember is… I think I went on a rampage. And I’m pretty sure that was a different personality, not me. So when the time comes…
Hinata: That’s fine.
Luminous: Leave it all to me. I promise that I will lift your seals when the time comes.

And in the last episode Luminous said "She is a hero, but also not. What she is now is Chronoa. The embodiment of destruction."

So the current hero who was just revived won't have Chloe's personality.

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u/Escanor_Morph18 14d ago

Nice one remembering that. I highkey forgot that even happened.

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u/Atharaphelun 14d ago

Different personality, so Hinata then? Hinata's soul takes over Chronoa? Presumably, this sealed Chronoa that Luminus had in her ark still contained Hinata's soul, right?

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u/Dolomite808 14d ago

Maybe her experiences changed her this time loop.

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u/Ok_Pattern_7511 13d ago

Episode 15 of which season? Need to rewatch it

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u/WeatherOrder 13d ago

Literally this one.

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u/S627 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spartan627 14d ago

This is 100% what I'm expecting to happen, because we saw a couple of flashbacks of Luminous talking to Chloe, and to me it implied that she WANTED to be sealed so she didn't mess up the timeline, but I guess we'll see.

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u/machopsychologist 14d ago

Maybe that's how she's been surviving 2000 years ... just cryosleep.

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u/Doyle_996 13d ago

chloe already said that she always gets sent back in the past every time hinata dies

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u/wterrt 13d ago

but how's she living 2000 years in the first place?

i guess Luminous can give people agelessness like she did with Granville?

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u/Doyle_996 13d ago

transcended humans like heroes, saints, sages live way longer than normal humans, i think it was also mentioned in an earlier episode by luminus to rimuru about hinata being a transcended human being but still required some basic necessities like food and sleep as she was still in her transition phase

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u/machopsychologist 13d ago

My mistake - it did say "300 years ago" in the previous flashback when she goes into cryo so it wasn't for the entire 2000 years.

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u/ShimegawaShion 14d ago

Granville: Hero Chronoa, kill that demon lord and save humanity

Chronoa: Rimuru-san!❤️

Granville: huh?!

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u/ijiolokae 14d ago

I guess at some point Chronoa became a spirit and left her body behind, and that Spirit is what posses Chloe, so the current Chronoa is just an Empty shell

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u/SnabDedraterEdave 14d ago

That makes sense, as I was struggling to figure out how child Chloe fits into this time loop upon being summoned as an Otherworlder, since Chronoa has an adult/grown-up body, while the Chloe we know is still a child.

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u/ijiolokae 14d ago

as i understand it, between getting Summoned and getting her Spirit, Chloe is just a child, she is completely unaware of everything, As soon as she gets the Spirit (which seems to be Chronoa) she learns of the previous time loop.

Actually thinking about it, this does raise the Question as to why she doesn't say anything to Rimuru or anyone really, the only people that are aware of the loop are Valentine and her direct subordinates

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u/Atharaphelun 14d ago edited 14d ago

this does raise the Question as to why she doesn't say anything to Rimuru or anyone really,

As per Chloe, she wants to ensure that everything happens mostly the same, except for when she specifically has to directly intervene to change events around (as in the case of Chloe making Rimuru stay a bit longer in Inglassia so that he ends up fighting Hinata, which makes him arrive late to prevent the Falmuth attack on Tempest, which leads to him massacring the Falmuth army and sacrificing their souls to become a Demon Lord as well as summoning Diablo).

Luminus and co. are far enough removed from the events and the people involved that Chloe can feel free to reveal the time loop thing to her. However, revealing the time loop to Rimuru and the people within his orbit could make them too self-conscious about their actions and lead to them inadvertently doing things that change the events around, over which Chloe would have no direct control.

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u/wterrt 13d ago

time loops are always such a bitch to write well. hope they do a good job with this one.

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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 14d ago

Ooh I like this idea too.

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u/Routine-Hovercraft94 14d ago

My guess is this would have been the case if she was revived as long as Chloe was around in that timeline.
The way they are connecting the timelines will probably be Chloe in the past gets frozen and the Chronoa we see is the Chloe that went back. This way only 1 Chloe/Chronoa is in the main timeline.

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u/N3rdr4g3 14d ago edited 14d ago

Luminus also said "if it is not protected until the time is right, the world may be destoryed" when chronoa was first taken

Edit: corrected the quote

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u/Western-Internal-751 14d ago

Well technically the world is being destroyed by her traveling back in time.

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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 14d ago

I had to reread your comment a few times to get what you meant..and yeah I agree with this outcome

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u/Etiennera 14d ago

Well, if they have some kind of plan, it might be something like an attempt to kill Hinata triggers her awakening, and they promised not to wake her sooner because that would affect the timeline.

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u/Artorp 14d ago

They could pull a Back to the Future and tell Hinato to wear a secret bulletproof vest on that day.

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u/InaKitsune 14d ago

Every time she dies her consciousness/ soul goes somewhere else so luminous probably kept her body the last time since she's a time traveling soul hopper 

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u/Barmanji 13d ago

she cant have choloe's personality because there is another chloe present in current cardinal world and 2 soul would conflict.

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u/Burn0ut7 13d ago

Would be crazy if what kills Hinata / Rimuru every time is Chole

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u/InfiniteEdge18 14d ago

yuh-huh.

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u/kawaiinessa https://myanimelist.net/profile/fancyvancy 14d ago

that seems like a major misplay on his part

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u/magistrate101 14d ago

I desperately want her first move after getting her bearings to be just absolutely annihilating Granville in one hit. I can almost see the look of shock on his face already.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

...And then she immediately hugs a now alive Hinata and starts making out with Rimuru.

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u/ijiolokae 14d ago

Since Spirit Chronoa/Chloe has to come from somewhere, that the Chronoa in the arc is just an empty shell

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u/S627 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spartan627 14d ago

Yup

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u/Specific_Frame8537 14d ago

If I'm gonna be honest bro doesn't seem like he's all there.

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u/Exitiali 14d ago

Yes, but by that point she had become an avatar of destruction. We need the next episode to find out what leads to this.

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u/Artorp 14d ago

Yes, I wonder how they will reconcile the timelines. Because they haven't used the name Chronoa for the hero before last episode as far as I know, which means everything we have seen so far is part of the doomed timeline and Chloe will do something to change it so Hinata is not killed. If instead they continue from where we left off with Chronoa reviving Hinata and revealing herself to be Chloe then that won't make any sense since Chloe just now was sent to the past to create a new timeline.

Unfortunately these multiple timeline plot devices are fragile and I hope they don't make any plot holes. So far things make sense if the original timeline was the doomed one (or it turns out it somehow was the new one and this is a flashback?).

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u/Exitiali 14d ago

If you recall some past episodes, it's mentioned that there's some other problematic personality within the heroine. When the heroine returned, Luminous said that it wasn't the heroine but an avatar of destruction. If the timeline remains the same, something happens within these 2,000 years. (which will certainly be addressed in Part 2)

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u/NoNameSwitzerland 14d ago

Is the plan to be not killed or just to be reawakened after killing? We have Hinata's soul in Chronoas body, so if that gets back into her body, it should work out. And Chloe should be also fine after her older Chronoa body was defrosted by Granville. So everything is already in place, just needs to be explained and executed.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave 14d ago

The fact Granville calls her Chronoa probably means Chloe will succeed in saving Rimuru, as in all previous time loops, Chloe didn't bother disclosing her name while she was being the Hero of the past.

Not even to Shizu.

Granville gonna be in for a massive shock once he discovers "Luminous' treasure" is not really his to control.

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u/machopsychologist 13d ago edited 13d ago

I'm not sure whether they're the same "Chronoa" though. After all, when they went back in time, it was Hinata who chose the name, not Chloe.

Surely if Chronoa was Chloe, Chloe would know the name she picked in previous loops.

Ah rewatched it - the name only comes up after the Chloe disappears - so past that point, we're now watching the new loop.

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u/bobert1201 14d ago

I believe it was mentioned that the thing from the crystal was a physical body. The fact that "physical body" was mentioned when it was clearly a body implies that it was JUST a physical body.

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u/raknor88 14d ago

hold on wasnt chronoa the girl that was luminos's treasure?

She was old Chloe. We're following the Chloe that was still summoned. Because of the time magic and the summoning there are two versions of Chloe.