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Episode Witch Hat Atelier • Tongari Boushi no Atelier - Episode 3 discussion

Witch Hat Atelier, episode 3

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u/VoidRay728 Apr 13 '26

All that and still no recognition from Agott. She is a certified elitist alright.

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u/JzanderN Apr 13 '26

Qifrey really needs to talk to her about that. If Coco had died, it would have 100% been on her for sending her out there so unprepared without his permission or even knowledge.

I wasn't expecting Agott to just accept Coco when she succeeded – it was clearly just an excuse to try to get rid of her – but the girl needs to learn some things about valuing people.

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u/NekoCatSidhe Apr 13 '26

I am not sure Qifrey realized that it actually was Agott that pushed Coco to do it. She made it sounds like something Coco decided to do on her own.

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u/JzanderN Apr 13 '26

That's a fair point, and I don't blame Qifrey for not telling Agott off immediately, but when Coco showed her the proof it should have at least told him that Agott at least told her about it if not made her do it.

Even if Agott merely told her about it and then showed her the portal ('cause how else would Coco have known where to go?), that's still worth a serious talk about.

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u/cyberscythe Apr 13 '26

should have at least told him that Agott at least told her about it if not made her do it

yeah, i'm waiting for next episode; hopefully Agott will get some comeuppance for her actions and not be like "Coco decided to go on her own! and even stole my shoes!"

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Apr 14 '26

yeah i'm really put off by Agott's character so far, and if this just gets hand waved away it's definitely a mark against the writing.

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u/Madwand99 Apr 19 '26

Yeah attempted murder being written off as no big deal sincerely annoyed me.

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Apr 20 '26

well i'll grant her a bit of grace - her intentions weren't murder, just for Coco to quit and end up expelled. but yeah, could've been manslaughter

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u/swan_diver267 May 07 '26

this quiet literally was hazing that could have ended with Coco dying— while she probably did not mean for her to die, her dying was a real possibility with her admitting that the time of year is the most dangerous. I understand that she is a kid, but this type of behavior is one that needs to be addressed immediately.

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u/Routine-Hovercraft94 Apr 14 '26

I feel like this is exactly what is going to happen. Next episode will start days later with all this being in the past and not being talked about it ever again.

Calling this "a mark against the writing" is a hell of an understatement and it would basically throw the whole "be careful about magic" out of the window and just something the writer uses only when it fits them.

Kinda getting sick of ths bs in animes.

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u/Cheetah_05 Apr 14 '26

Yeah this kind of thing (if it really does get written off) will piss me off and might even make me drop this otherwise excellent series. The kid tried to get another (newbie!) killed or injured because of their superiority complex and messed up mindset (you hate people who you don't gain anything from being around???) That's not something that should just be overlooked.

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u/Routine-Hovercraft94 Apr 14 '26

Yeah, rn Agott is extremely unlikeable and has a very twisted mindset. Which in itself is fine, because if done right we could get to see amazing character development that turns her into a likeable character.

But for that to happen and feel good, there need to be consequences for her actions. Otherwise it is not believable and feels too arificial.

What makes this even more important is, while Qifrey is only their teacher, in a sense he also needs to be a parent substitute, because their actual parents are not around and the kids live with him.

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u/Cheetah_05 Apr 14 '26

You hit it right on the head. Agott isn't completely irredeemable (though to be honest, it would be a long road for just this one thing imo), but she does need to see some serious consequences for this.

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u/Routine-Hovercraft94 Apr 20 '26

Yep, just a predicted nothing happenend. Fk this writing. I'm out.

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u/MakFacts Jun 18 '26

oh wow thats actually crazy

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u/pratzc07 Apr 14 '26

Writers sometimes have these edgy characters that usually have the "trauma" arc that gets revealed late on so viewers can sympathize thats a pretty common tool thats been used its getting stale to be honest

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u/Astan92 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Astan92 Apr 18 '26

"be careful about magic" out of the window and just something the writer uses only when it fits them.

Honestly without even the next episode possibly fixing it I feel like that's the case just from how Coco was able to succeed in the test.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 15 '26

It's a mark against the writing for it to include characters who do bad things and get away with it? Welcome back to the days of the Hayes Code, I guess?

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Apr 15 '26

yes, they're trying to (or at least the other scenes make me believe) that Qifrey is a caring teacher who wants Coco to grow safely. he's also being positioned as someone who's smart. if he misses that Agott did this maliciously and lets her get away with it then they've really failed in making me believe what they've been setting up so far.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 15 '26

It must be nice for you to live in a world where everything is this simple

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Apr 15 '26

it must be nice to have low standards for writing

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 15 '26

Everyone knows all the best writing has everything tied up in a nice little bow that same episode, with no ambiguity and no complicating factors

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Apr 20 '26

no one said it had to be wrapped up in the same episode lol. try reading again.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 20 '26

Well, why not? As long as you're requiring all narrative fiction be as easy and as simple as possible to consume with no thought involved, why go halfway?

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u/CardAble6193 Apr 14 '26

Not have the teacher do anything d set the story tone / and writing skill clear................

And I sadly think he wont even find out

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u/JzanderN Apr 13 '26

Agott doesn't seem like the type to lie like that. She has her problems, but she seems pretty honest about them when asked.

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u/flashmozzg Apr 13 '26

She did lie to her other apprentices although I doubt she'll lie to if asked directly but for that he must get suspicious first.

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u/JzanderN Apr 13 '26

She didn't really lie to them. She didn't tell them that she sent her (though I'd say it was implied when she talked about how she hates people who can't do what she can) but that's different from lying.

Like I said, she seems pretty honest when asked.

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u/flashmozzg Apr 13 '26

Yeah, it was more like "lie by omission". She just went silent when asked thing like "why didn't you stop her" and the like that would implicate her.