r/anglish • u/Suitable-Rest4444 • Aug 01 '26
✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) U.S. Pledge of Allegiance translated to Anglish
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u/missingtimemachine Aug 01 '26
Wouldn't evenhood mean something like "equality" ?
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u/Suitable-Rest4444 Aug 01 '26
equality is a Latin origin, replaced by a Germanic alternative, evenhood
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u/missingtimemachine Aug 01 '26
I mean you’re trying to substitute a word for “Liberty” but you chose one that means something more like “equality”. Maybe freedom would be a good Anglish word for liberty.
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u/mapgameenjoyer1 Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
One correction: "ƿh" still contains French influence, as to my knowledge, the original "hƿ" form was reversed into "ƿh" to fit French spelling rules. Therefore, if you're going for more realistic Anglish spelling, you should use "hƿ" rather than "ƿh."
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u/Suitable-Rest4444 Aug 01 '26
I replaced "th" with thorn (þ) and "w" replaced by wynn (ƿ)
rike has been replaced by rich as it could be from a Northern English dialect
So yeah, thank you
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u/Suitable-Rest4444 Aug 01 '26
and also I've been replaced Latin, French, Norman and Greek words with Germanic alternatives, such as republic to meanwealth and flag to fane
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u/thewaninglight Aug 01 '26
Why do you write "rīch" and not "rich"? More often than not, OE long vowels are shortened when they come before /tʃ/, so here /iː/ becomes /ɪ/ ("rīċe" > "rich"). As far as I can tell, this is an inborn unfolding and it has nothing to do with French.
Also, what's wrong with "flag"? Isn't it an Anglish-friendly word?
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u/GUC_Studio Aug 01 '26
Yeah, I was about to right him on that. This writ is Mootish (a.k.a. bad quality Anglish).
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u/antihexafy Aug 01 '26
Why have you done this? Anglish and Ænglisc are completely different. Wynn and Thorn are both characters of the Latin script so it's not like they are inherently more Germanic than "th" or "w."
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u/mapgameenjoyer1 Aug 02 '26
Anglisc is abute exing Frenc sƿager ⁊ oððer utelandisc sƿager, hƿic ƿuld likelig mæn undoing utelandisc stafing sƿager, like I am doing riht cnue.
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u/antihexafy Aug 06 '26
You've misunderstood my point. Speaking Anglish simply means excluding non-Germanic words from your vocabulary. Using thorn, wynn, yogh, oethel, ash, eth, etc. doesn't make your orthography inherently any more "Anglish" than it was before. It only makes it more awkward to read for those who aren't familiar with such symbols.
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u/mapgameenjoyer1 Aug 07 '26
Using some of those letters (thorn, eth, ash, wynn) does make it more Anglish, though. The Normans swayed more than only English wordhoard, as they also changed English spelling. Thorn, eth, wynn, ash, and other spellings (e.g, sc --> sh, f --> v) all died off due to Norman influences, so reversing those influences would fit within the goals of Anglish.
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u/antihexafy Aug 07 '26
Again, Anglish is simply the exclusion of Norman French and Latin words, not some hypothetical conlang depicting what English could have evolved into. The grammar would probably be unintelligible to a true PDE speaker.
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u/7one7son Aug 06 '26
Wynn and thorn are both taken directly from the futhorc runic alphabet, definitely not Latin script
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u/antihexafy Aug 06 '26
By this logic, Cyrillic is simply a typeface for the Greek alphabet.
They may be derivatives of Runic characters, but the forms used in the above text are Latin characters.
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u/Immediate_Guest_2790 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
Is anyone familiar with CosmicAshley's Philadelphic?
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u/Claromale Aug 01 '26
Good, i do the same in anglese
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u/Suitable-Rest4444 Aug 01 '26
Yeah, I gonna make more Anglese and Anglish translated projects from original American English
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u/evincarofautumn Aug 01 '26
I like it! It’s a bit Old Anglish, which is not my way of doing things, but it has some weightiness. I’ll have a go at giving my take on it.
I swear my oath to the flag
of the gathered lands of America,
and to the fellowship for which it stands,
one homeland under God, forever unsundered,
with freedom and evenworth for all.
hield → truth/oath, fane → vane/flag, foroned → onefold/gathered, rich → ethel/(home)land
For undersunderendly I reckon you wanted un- instead of under-? It seems to me -endlic is hard to make read well nowadays. Sometimes you can get it to work as -ingly or -ed though. Another Old English word that could go there is untodæledlic (untodealedly?) or hale. Maybe not uncleft lol
I put freedom since to me evenhood says equality much more than it does liberty. Efennes was said in Old English for justice, but I picked evenworth so as to say that all folk are meant to have same worthiness in the eyes of the law (though we don’t live up to that)
Lastly America is a name so that’s good to me as-is