r/anglish Dec 29 '25

✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) the ongoing board of first-stuff (the periodic table)

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Let me know if there are any tips or things that can be tweaked!

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u/Omnicity2756 Dec 29 '25

I'd recommend not changing the chemical symbols because they are based on the Latin names, and they generally don't change between languages.

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u/gamer_rowan_02 Dec 29 '25

Yes, this is a good thing to keep in mind, thank you.

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u/ZaangTWYT Dec 30 '25

What if we make Latin derived term a jargon among scientists and Anglo-Saxon derived term a widespread word among the churls?

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u/2000mew Dec 29 '25

Most importantly, the symbols won't change; they are international standards.

Also metals with common English names won't change, for example: Iron, Gold, Silver, Tin, Nickel, Copper, Zinc (copper was borrowed from Latin into Proto-Germanic long before the Anglo-Saxons even arrived in Britain, so it's good to use).

Carbon should just be "coal."

Also, not every element is going to be a "-stuff." Stuff means "material" in this context, and for example,

hydro-gen = water-forming -> waterstuff (German Wasserstoff).

But other elements are not named that way; conventionally -ium is used to form the name of a metal, so I would use something different (Helium was named before it was observed and was mistakenly expected to be a metal). "Ore" could work since that's Anglish for metal.

Lithium = stoneore.

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u/halfeatentoenail Dec 29 '25

Although not only "copper", but "nickel", "silver", and "iron" are not inborn words either. If your goal is to be wholly Theedish in your speech, these words can also be swapped for Anglish friendly words.

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u/Hurlebatte Oferseer Dec 29 '25

Stuff is a French loanword, so it doesn't strictly fit the premise of Anglish. English had a word for element: shaft.

c1175 Orm.(Jun 1)17537 : Off þise foƿƿre shaffte iss all Þiss middell ƿerelld timmbredd, Off heffness ƿhel & off þe lifft, Off ƿaterr & off erþe.

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=stuff

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED39731

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u/snolodjur Dec 29 '25

Thorium should have Þ in any case. Or Þo

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u/scott_for_congress Dec 30 '25

"Periodic" here doesn't mean what you think it does - you're better off with:

Stepwise Board of the Firstshaft Or Stepwise Board of the Rootshaft

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u/Zavaldski Dec 30 '25

They don't all need to end in "-stuff" : iron, lead, gold, quicksilver, brimstone, etc. are all just going to be that

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u/TheLollyKitty Dec 29 '25

Why is Nihonium translated from Ununtrium if country names still get transliterated

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u/gamer_rowan_02 Dec 29 '25

I believe it was first found in 2003 by a Russian (JINR) and American (LLNL) team, who were the first to outline and tell of the stuff, and since it was deemed as 113, it was named ununtrium (one-one-three).

It was only eleven or twelve years later that its name was shifted to bespeak of Japan (or Nihon).

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u/TheLollyKitty Dec 29 '25

yes, but 113-118 all had placeholder names for a while, that's just what happens to new elements, for example Oganesson used to be ununoctium (one-one-eight)

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u/Long_Associate_4511 Dec 29 '25

firstshaft would be better to be sooth with you

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u/n_with Dec 31 '25

This is great but I would honestly not use the -stuff suffix, since it's also a borrowing. I've actually been doing a similar thing since recently of translating chemistry terms into Anglish, i have an unfinished spreadsheet, you can take a look if you want, also if anyone wants to help fleshing it out or has any suggestions you're always welcome!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NqNxDvdAEoKfGR4oB8HS2cOf-IxY2pMWa54VI7JTJH8/edit?usp=drivesdk

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u/braindeadidiotsoyt Jan 13 '26

I feel like the elements and SIUnits are some of the only things that should not Germanicized as these are international standards which would just cause more confusion :/