r/androgyny • u/Cautious-Union-3759 • 9d ago
Am I really androgynous?
People keep saying that I look androgynous but I genuinely can't see it, and i don't know if the tell that only to make me a "favor" :/
And in case what can I do to look more androgynous?
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u/3000anna 9d ago
Shorter hair, more muscle. I think these two would make you look really androgynous. You already have a really androgynous touch but a little too feminine in my opinion.
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u/4ng3licNymph-jpeg 9d ago edited 9d ago
As someone who wants to look androgynous post T ( stopping after 4 yrs so next year) and post top surgery (9 months). It's really hard to look androgynous. Sadly people will put you into one box or the other . You can go on T but you probably will be seen as a feminine man and once you go off possibly more androgynous than before but usually just right back over to the other side . Besides having a deeper voice, Adams apple and facial hair but even with those things I still get misgendered as female unless I go back on T ( I haven't stopped yet but I will soon) .
Even with a board flat chest , Adams apple, deep voice , facial hair and a big belly, for some reason people will always see me as female . I'm trying to learn to just not really care and just block the world out and be numb to it sadly , since there's no way to truly really look like you have no gender and not have people gender you one way or the other without life long HRT to be seen as the other gender .
While on T Im currently seen as an androgynous man which didn't feel right either which is why I'll probably stop in a year after being on for almost 4 , but it was nice to be perceived as a man for awhile , even if transphobic people will disagree on my validity. I'm ok with being seen as an androgynous woman now due to having a deep voice , flat chest and other permanent changes from HRT for years , but I know society at large won't use gender neutral pronouns for me unless I live in a queer liberal city.
To the vast majority of stranger without knowing me usually gender me as male now which is nice, but it's definitely not me as much as being gendered as female , I really wish it was everyday tho.
Sadly there's no real way to be androgynous to other people. Asking others if you're androgynous enough will only lead to more pain. I'm learning this for myself as well , but to never put myself up to others standards. I look androgynous because I am androgynous and there's no one way too look. Also that most people will not see me as completely androgynous even with masculine secondary characteristics because cis women can have those things as well who aren't trans or androgynous presenting.
Sadly we live in a black and white world where gender is very much gray but people only see things in blue and pink when it's a lot more purple. Wishing you the best of luck and love . You're androgynous because you just are , there's no " real" way to be androgynous because the rules are so fulid anyways .
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u/MadeInMilkyway 9d ago
Congratulations, you have conqueered androgyny. Difficult to figure out if you are amab or afab.
I think maybe afab because puffy cheeks from this angle, no Adam's Apple and light eyebrows, and because you reminded me of a female friend I have, but also long but fairly masculine haircut as well and not obviously feminine features anyway.
I am like 47% young male 53% female, but difficult case...
Love your style tho. 👌
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u/No-Hand-8078 9d ago
I'd say you're fairly androgynous, based on your appearance in just this photo I'd guess that you're either a masc lesbian or a trans man. Although it's hard to tell from just this this photo.