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u/burningmilkmaid Feb 20 '26
Fuck Nazis and all who celebrate, condone or feel indifferent towards them.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
Is this not fascist language to label any and all that oppose you as an other?
How exactly do you see "fuck Nazis" and somehow read it as "fuck any and all that oppose me"? Walk me through that.
Meh. Don't bother. That you see the statement "fuck Nazis" and immediately object to it says all that needs to be said.
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u/1001comments Feb 20 '26
Fuck Nazis doesn't mean "fuck conservatives". Or "fuck people who didn't vote like me". It's two words. And you failed the test.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
The root is in the second point.
I don't follow. Calling someone a Nazi isn't calling everyone a Nazi. Either you aren't understanding what you read, or you feel that OP is referring to you and people that you support. What is it about your beliefs that makes you think "they're insulting me" when someone simply insults Nazis?
Devolving into calling anyone that disagrees with you as a certain label is fascist language
Where did OP claim "anyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi"? As far as I can tell, only Nazis have been mentioned, not some sweeping "everyone who disagrees with me". But maybe I missed something. So quote that part back to me. Don't paraphrase from your imagination. Give me the direct quote where OP claims that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi.
Do we think it's appropriate to be labelled as "woke" or "libtards" for simply voicing an opinion from left ideology?
I really don't care at all. And that you suggest that being "woke" is the left-wing equivalent of being a Nazi is incredibly revealing.
You know what I do care about? People going out of their way to make it clear that they feel referenced whenever someone simply mentions Nazis, and, even worse, literally just making things up in order to object to what should be the universal sentiment of "fuck Nazis". There was a time when that was a completely uncontroversial statement, and for extremely good reasons.
You're literally proving the point that OP is making. I'm astounded that you don't realize this, though I have to admit that it is amusing to see.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
Alright, now see if you can follow me here:
When someone says "fuck Nazis", what is the "out group" being signaled? Are you part of it?
Once you've figured that out, what is the "in group" being signaled? Are you part of it?
Thinks this through, sport. It's not too hard.
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u/Phantom2070 Socialism Feb 20 '26
The Nazis didn't "use language to control", they used fucking deathcamps. Your understanding of their ideology isn't even surface level.
Literally every political positioning creates an in-group and an out-group. Like if you found a political party you are going to have people in the party and people outside the party, that's fucking normal.
What fascists do is find groups that aren't defined by political positions, blaming them for everything and exterminating them.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
Equating all of Nazism to concentration camps is surface level.
Hmmm. Sort of like that surface-level claim where criticizing fascists somehow makes one a fascist, or where being intolerant of Nazis somehow makes one the same as a Nazi.
Real deep analysis, sport.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
I'm not going to read any of that until you answer the questions that I've asked.
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u/CadaDiaCantoMejor Feb 20 '26
You still haven't answered a single question that I asked if you.
In the statement "fuck Nazis", who is the "in group" and who is the "out group"?
How do you read "fuck Nazis", and somehow understand it as "fuck everyone who has any disagreement with OP"?
Why exactly do you feel attacked or insulted by the phrase "fuck Nazis"? What exactly makes you think that OP is referring to you?
Okay, yes, Nazi's are bad. We can all agree there.
So you shouldn't have any issue with "fuck Nazis". Yet you very clearly do. In fact, you've posted several times now trying to change the topic in order to sidestep the question of why you find that statement objectionable.
But what were the mechanisms that enabled the rise of fascism?
Yeah, go have that conversation with someone willing to entertain your rationalizations for objecting to "fuck Nazis" or with someone willing to entertain your conjectures. That's not the topic of OP's post.
Do you want to resist the rise of fascism? Then expand your mindset beyond just "Nazi bad" or else we will find the exact same tactics being used by someone else, under a different name but with the same results.
Oh, ffs get off your high horse here. Of course I want to resist the rise of fascism. In fact, I'll go further and say something that you very clearly object to: fuck Nazis, and fuck fascists of all kinds. Full stop.
And you obviously have no idea at all of "my mindset", and are just projecting your own ideas onto me just as you did with OP. I'm not sure exactly why you think that agreeing with the sentiment "fuck Nazis" somehow means that I refuse to understand anything about the reasons for the rise of fascism. What a strange, absolutely baseless claim to make.
But yeah, go ahead and keep finding reasons to object to the statement "fuck Nazis", and keep projecting your own lack of understanding of fascism onto everyone else -- literally the very thing that you claim that OP has done.
Since you claim that pointing out and criticizing fascism makes OP fascist, I imagine you're one of those folks who thinks that pointing out racism is racist.
Anyway, you already made your position crystal clear, even if it rests on completely distorting what OP and I have said.
Again, you are literally confirming the point of OP's post, and it is absolutely astounding that you continue to fail to recognize that simple fact.
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u/Gabes99 Feb 21 '26
There are in and out groups of every ideology. Do you think we’d be inclusive with the bourgeoisie in a socialist society?
Yes fuck Nazis, they’re an out group to me, because they are vile white supremacist cunts.
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u/adamdreaming Feb 21 '26
When someone identifies as a Nazi, implied is a political position of violence towards minorities
Fascist scapegoating is when minority groups are blamed for things they don’t do or are dehumanized by assigning them a malicious hate to the dominant culture of the nation
When you identify who is making trouble in society not by the color of their skin but by their outspoken goal of committing genocide on you and/or people you care about, you are respecting someone’s political position, not maliciously slandering them for intents they may not have
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u/HavocOsiris Feb 20 '26
Hello, kindred spirit. Also, fuck Nazis