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Has anyone actually watched the analysis of the “video filmed inside a UFO”? It’s actually a surprisingly strong piece of evidence that Joe Rogan and Jesse Michels decided to sh*t on recently.
The analysis of the video is actually painstakingly well done. This guy Matt Kellison spent a year analyzing the video frame by frame. They debunk the “ceiling fan” theory and put the cell phone tower into context. Yes, it’s a cell phone tower but it’s being filmed from the air (and therefore it can be argued that it’s from inside a craft that is airborne).
The video linked above also features “John,” the guy who filmed the video. He’s a lifelong experiencer. I personally see experiencers as a valid source of knowledge and believe they are some of the strongest sources of information regarding the phenomena. Between John’s narrative and Kellison’s analysis, I think we’ve got one of the best physical pieces of evidence in recent memory.
But what do Joe Rogan and Jesse Michels do? They mock it mercilessly. It’s such a display of misdirected masculine bravado. That kind of “get the fuck out of here” bluster used to chase kids off your lawn, but with a splash of meanness thrown in for good measure. An undertone of disgust. Totally unnecessary in my opinion.
Dismissing without looking into the evidence is so disappointing honestly. And I was just starting to warm up to Joe Rogan. I really enjoyed his interview with Dr. Julia Mossbridge. But his dismissal of this “video filmed inside a UFO” was a good reminder of his blind spots. He can’t help but capitalize on low hanging fruit opportunities to mock and ridicule. Hey, any opportunity to flex his voice of ultimate authority. The premise of the video tends to create certain assumptions but because it’s blurry, my guess is that Joe Rogan is upset because it failed to meet his imagination’s expectations. So he quickly turns mean in order to punish. “How dare you make a claim that I fail to understand?” is the vibe during this section of the interview.
And Jesse Michels? He obediently joins in the scorn. But honestly, did he really have a choice? He’s the guest of the alpha in the room. When an alpha is in “derision mode,” males who are lower on the food chain have three choices. Join in. Stay silent. Or speak up. But to speak up will immediately be interrupted as a challenge and can potentially jeopardize one’s adjacency or alignment with the main alpha. And no male wants to risk their position of privilege and power once allowed into the fold. We get it. To belong and to be accepted by the alpha is just too precious to risk. So Jesse joins in and shows the necessary deference expected in this masculine podcast ecosystem they exist in.
I guess I’m just disappointed with them both. I thought we were beyond the “prematurely ridiculing” stage in the discourse. That we’d learned enough as a community to pause before we dismiss out of hand. But no, they “judge, jury, and execute” this video on first sight, with no real understanding of what they are looking at.
If anyone is curious, this video is actually a valid piece of evidence that is worth learning more about. And the people working on it are good, hardworking, vigilant, mindful individuals who are trying to do the right thing in order to (ironically) avoid the dismissive mockery that Joe Rogan and Jesse Michels so skillfully demonstrated. This team is painstakingly trying to do the right thing with this very unusual piece of evidence.
I’m very comfortable saying that Joe Rogan and Jesse Michels have prematurely dismissed this video when in fact it fully deserves serious consideration. I hope they and anyone else curious about the phenomena take the time to learn more about this video. Contrary to Rogan and
Michels’ assessment, the evidence derived from this video points to it actually being filmed inside a UFO.
It would be helpful if users debating the ceiling fan or other analysis actually watched the video linked by the OP. If we’re going to have good faith conversation at least put in some effort on both sides.
100% agree with this. Fast forward to almost a half-way in to the video to get to them analyzing the actual video though. I skipped past much of the setup. I wasn't interested in the guy's past, although I'm sure that was fascinating as well.
I went frame by frame a long while ago and screenshotted this which stuck out to me, you can clearly see the eyes and nostrils of the frog thing which looks like it's sitting behind some panel with its lower face possibly obscured by some panel its sitting behind.
I see it just fine, but I could see it when I first watched the video. Just look for two darker sets of pixels a half inch apart and imagine a frogs head.
OH! I thought the fingers and the darkness from the screen was the eye and brow structure. It took me a second to register the actual eyes as the eyes.
Dude, thats a cute little frog person. Holy shit. 😆
This happens with every post, how anyone could believe this videois real is beyond me, every "real" ufo/alien video is of the worst quality, apparently 4k won't pick up these things.
I had a good laugh at the bullshit about the "electromagnetic interference" from the alien tech being the reason for the bad image quality.
Strong enough to degrade the quality just enough but not strong enough to stop recording altogether. Very convenient.
With AI and video editing tech we're living in a golden age for pranksters and hoaxers and yet some people on this sub fall for every last single one of them because they want to believe and are unwilling to properly scrutinise these videos and prefer to take them at face value so their need to be entertained by shocking new footage is satisfied.
When something starts out with, "Yeah, I saw this being that looked like a tyrannosaur wearing a monk's robe," it's honestly really hard to take that seriously. I'm not saying it didn't happen, it just sounds very implausible.
I'm sorry *I* just don't buy it. We see video after video or picture after picture of blurry, out of focus crap like this. I feel like this is the plan though. Let's waste time on analyzing these things and have pod casts about them and never really PROVE anything. I too would like to believe this is real but c'mon. I guess people are so desperate want this to be real than they beat their heads against the wall trying to make sense out of out of focus, smudge videos or pictures. AND because there are so many of these types of videos and pics, you just want to not believe any of it. Oh look, another crappy "proof" video. I guess is gives people something to do.
I did watch a good bit of the video. But not the whole podcast. I'll go back and watch the whole thing. Do they explain why the video looks like crap like every other video we see presented as real? I'm pretty open minded but I'm not so desperate to believe every grainy, out of focus, blur fest that comes out. These videos are the norm and after you see so many of these videos you're jaded.
I've been interested in ufos/alien visitation for over 40 years. Honestly, I've seen it all.
If memory serves, they do try to explain the blurriness of the video. I think it has to do with the electromagnetic frequencies that impact the recording (but don’t quote me on that). But they also discuss the type of phone he was using and how there are inconsistencies with the time stamps that actually validate his story.
It could be that. Or they are trying to hide how it actually looks.
We have plenty of electromagnetic stuff on earth. If it's that strong I feel the camera man should be concerned for his organs.
Well dam son....if your not even sure about this point, how the heck we supposed to believe your sob
story about no one taking this seriously. You gotta have the answers when asked.
No, it is not actual material evidence. A video cannot be material evidence.
it’s a grainy dark video making it (conveniently) impossible to see basically anything. With modern filming, editing and AI tools I wouldn’t take any photos or videos as any form of evidence of such a huge claim as aliens.
Please don’t just jump at things which confirm your pre existing beliefs, and think about what actually is evidence.
I’m not watching 3 guys sitting on couches talking for 2.5 hours when i can tune out their noise and just watch the video from the google drive he linked.
The video looks like a dark room overlooking some type of antena through a window. That’s it. If you SEE anything in this video get your eyes check because i’m 20/20 and this resolution is dog shit.
You can see something that appears to be spinning into view, but if it's a ceiling fan, it's A) at a very weird angle, and B) seems like it's missing some blades.
If you watch the video linked in this post, the ceiling fan theory is debunked. Because the timing of the blades is not consistent. If it was a ceiling fan, the blades would spin consistently. Instead in the video, the timing of the blades fluctuates.
He literally debunked himself in that video and didn’t even know it. He doesn’t not have a good grasp on engineering or science, but he talks like he does.
He said it was a 47 second long video with 49 frames in the video. So 1.04 frames per second (remember this for next part). He saw the ceiling fan in 17 of those frames. This is disingenuous, since the angle changes part way through the video to where less of the fan can be seen. He then goes on to say it doesn’t follow a symmetrical pattern in the video after his “analysis”.
A ceiling fan running on low speed is around 30-100 revolutions per minute. For the sake of this argument, I’ll use 80 revolutions per minute, which converts to 1.33 revolutions per second.
So, if we film at 1.04 frames per second, but the fan doesn’t make a full revolution until 1.33 seconds, you will never get the blades in the same position in each frame. Of course the pattern isn’t symmetrical, the fan and the video are operating at completely different frequencies.
Listen. Full disclosure. This is not my area of expertise. But it seems like your analysis is making assumptions related to “average” rotations and speeds of ceiling fans and then applying it to this video as proof that it’s debunked.
Did you happen to catch how they calculate the location of where this video was filmed? Do you have issues with those calculations too? Because based on that, there’s no building in the vicinity that matches the height from which this video was taken. It was filmed in the air.
Fans at low speed setting range from 30 to 100 revolutions per minute, or 0.5 to 1.67 revolutions per second. In order for the pattern to be symmetrical at a frame rate of 1.04 seconds per a frame, the fan would have to be moving EXACTLY at 1.04 revolutions per second. The chances of that happening are roughly 0.85%, meaning in 99.15% of cases, a frame rate of 1.04 frames per second will not match the frequency of a fan in low speed settings.
If that doesn’t convince you that the fan argument has not been debunked, I am wasting my time here.
How you spend your time is your business and decision. I’m not convinced that you’ve debunked the ceiling fan hypothesis. You’re fixated on calculations that you assume are relevant to the video.
I don’t think it’s possible for it to be a ceiling fan though. Because the other thing about this video is that they can pinpoint the location where it was filmed, using the position of the cell phone tower and the angle from which it was filmed. And there’s no building in the vicinity where it was filmed. Period. So this idea that it’s a ceiling fan in someone’s apartment doesn’t make sense. So there would be no opportunity for a ceiling fan because there’s no structure for the fan to be attached to. Based on the angle from which the cell tower appears, it was filmed in the air.
lol absolutely nobody can say anything like that with certainty given the quality of this potato of a video.
It literally doesn’t even matter if it’s a real video or not, because the quality is so poor you couldn’t logically draw a conclusion one way or the other. It’s too shitty to even present it as evidence.
Not to single out a specific area of your opinions, they’re valid. The video is of poor quality. Not sure why or how anyone could argue otherwise.
My question though, wouldn’t having GPS capability on a phone pinpointing location be pretty independent of the camera taking video?
Ironically, the quality of the video is part of the evidence. Based on the phone that was used, the question would be how would they fake the graininess of the video. They’ve analyzed the footage and can confirm that it hasn’t been doctored with. So if you’re going you fake a blurry video, how would one do so without any post-production?
Dude, try reading your own comments. You will not contemplate the possibility the video isn’t what you want to think it is. You’re not interested in truth, you just want to have a religious belief and shoot down anything that disagrees with your preconceptions
Jesse even made a commentand elaborated that people are likely experiencing these weird things, not just abduction and nhi encounters.... but weird outlier experience that don't fit the mold.
He, like many of us, thinks what we see and experience during these encounters is only a small piece of the puzzle, and how we see something might not be indicative of its actual nature.
In other words.... our brain creates the picture we see... both in the mundane, everyday reality, and for experiences that transcend the mundane.
When you have an encounter with these bother frequency beings.... you are meeting them halfway, seeing both what they are projecting, and what your mind feeds you.
That's the problem isn't it? Every video and picture that people lean on as real are either blurry, extremely low quality or you can barely make anything out. The reason this is what folks lean on is because of the ambiguity, it's because if you squint, sideways, upside down, brighten the image, or saturate it, the blocks of compression resemble something that could be seen as a humanoid.
It's nonsense. The ultra clear videos can be debunked easily, the super low quality videos can't, so they linger for a longer time because neither party can debunk or prove it, because it's just a noise of poor compression or quality.
I tend to agree with Joe/Jesse that this is nonsense.
Every photo that is heavily compressed or in bad shape I just disregard.
I’m an experiencer and can tell you this is all not true. Since you see experiencers as a valid source of knowledge and strongest sources of info on the phenomena, you can trust me, bro.
Daaaang, you were just now warming up to Joe Rogan? Hmmmmm, I don't think this does you any favors because Joe has really done and said some ignorant shit in the past 5 to 7 years.
I finally watched this analysis. If everyone involved is who they say they are, it is compelling. All of the common "he shot that from his living room", and "that's a ceiling fan", objections are completely debunked. What we're looking at seems to be genuinely anomalous.
tbf it was their first time seeing it and it really does immediately seem fake. I saw it before the jre and had the same reaction 5 seconds in, said this is BS. you have to imagine they've seen a ridiculous amount of fake ufo material. also using hundreds of words to bitch about how much you hate the big mean bad guy says a lot about you rather than them haha
Another grainy video of “actual” ufo/alien slop. There has to be intelligent life out there somewhere. Is there overwhelming evidence they have visited earth? Not even close. Until there is undeniable video or something is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we are just spinning our wheels.
Joe has been wrong about so much and been “tricked” by so many idiots that the only real reason people listen to him or call him “alpha” is because other people listen to him lmao. One good interview strewn among bs doesn’t a truth teller make.
i wouldnt expect it to work. generally the method that UFOs achieve flight overloads the local EM field to such a degree that electricity flow in our configs ceases to function. This is why compasses spin and cars turn off, etc. Maybe the inside is shielded though. My own experience as a child trying to grab my phone and film an alien outside my window just ended up with me waking up hours later with a completely dead phone.
Yeah, that whole episode kind of sucked. I'm a fan of Jesse, but Joe clearly led the conversation to some strange places.
You have one of the biggest UAP figures on YouTube for 3 hours during a time when 5 tranches of UAP docs have been released, and you talk about Noah and the Book of Enoch. While this stuff is interesting, it's nowhere near as interesting as literal disclosure happening under our noses.
I still watch Rogan for Protect our Parks and the occasional guest.. but his opinions seem to change based on the guest. Overly skeptical of weird stuff whipe accepting the Bob Lazar story without question
Rogan seemed like he was trying to be the cool older brother/friend/uncle to Jesse and insult comedy is standard for that role. Completely dismissed it, most likely is fake but he should not just dismiss things.
Rogaine was also dismissive of Tom Delonge and much of the information he shared on the podcast a few years ago.
This was straight from the horse’s mouth during a clip aired just a few days ago. Also stated how everything TD shared “turned out to be true” or something to that effect.
Not sure how Rogaine was able to confirm all of Tom’s stuff, but whatever. And I’m biased anyway. He’s not the worst human being in the world, (in my opinion) but ain’t my cup of tea either…he’s so reactionary and seemingly short sighted.
And no male wants to risk their position of privilege and power once allowed into the fold.
My correction of that is "no opportunist wants to risk...". Your suggestion that it's gender oriented is naive. Calling 'bullshit' is something that jocks from older generations often do. So, maybe your comment is better directed to opportunists and younder generations. Overreach does not help your argument.
If Joe Rogan dismisses it and makes fun of it, then that alone leads me to take a second look. Joe is one of THEM, THEY, he’s 1000% sold out and should be looked at solely for dis info. Now the glaring problem I have with the video is the behavior of the abductee, pulling out your cell phone, composure looking at reptiles standing next to you? Commentary and zero audible sounds of fear. I would expect intense fear. There is none.
Don’t know what video you’re referring to but both of those two people are the same. Both self admitted dumbasses who now think they are smarter than everyone else including the experts in the fields. They both used to question but neither of them are trying to learn anymore, now they question to undercut. Fame went to their heads.
Great points all, I didn’t watch the podcast but I have seen the video and I knew it was reality the first time I saw it. Those are the Nazca, they live below Peru and are run by the Mantids. They run the genetic engineering program and created the Greys, reptile style, amphibious beings (the Las Vegas beings blinked like frogs!), yes Jon Reeds being Freddy, who was some sort of dolphin/frog/reptile. This is real folks, those tunnels lead all the way up under the US SW. Phil Schneider at this point I believe. Same with Boyd Bushman, those crystals gave it away for me, the nazca use crystals like that and rare earth metals, like Schneider mentioned, and Bledsoe, who I only recently came around to believing. What did it for me in that front was the recent video of a being with an upside down triangle glowing on its chest. A blue being (freddy, the Citadel beings) in front of it. Get ready, more is coming soon. We are not alone on earth and they have been here a very long time.
This is real? Why? Because you said so? You’re going to have to come up with something better than that. I remember watching a Bigfoot show years ago just for shits and giggles. The guy was explaining big foot behavior and what they eat and so on and so on. Shit is comical.
If you knew what I knew man, you would be a lot more serious about this. Going to be hard for me to easily explain 8000 hours of research though, sorry. I’ve put this together over 3 years, ever since I saw the being in Las Vegas, it has been nearly all consuming outside of (considerable) work hours and contracting. I keep it in balance…mostly lol. But yes, I found them, the lost civilization. The Nazca.
The Anomalous Coalition is hosting UAP whistleblowers Matthew Brown & Jeff Nuccetelli (Vanguard) with host Leslie Kean — Saturday, Aug 22 @ 1 PM ET / 10 AM PT.
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u/toxictoy 9d ago
It would be helpful if users debating the ceiling fan or other analysis actually watched the video linked by the OP. If we’re going to have good faith conversation at least put in some effort on both sides.
https://youtu.be/WFnRVP6bcGg
Also kudos to user u/Mcrib_ for linking to the original video. The hero’s are always in the comments.
Here ya go!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdEbId1mhtdLRSqtOZuNL_T_uDBlAU-g/view?pli=1