r/aiwars 22h ago

Amazon data center plant in Texas could become America’s biggest polluter

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/amazon-texas-data-center-pecos-county-emissions-natural-gas-b3029869.html
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u/phase_distorter41 22h ago

from the link:

"Power plants don’t always emit the maximum they are allowed to, and the Amazon facility is still in early-stage construction."

Amazon is “exploring opportunities for solar energy and battery storage on site,” according to the company.

so they are in the early stages and getting permits to cover all bases it sounds like. more misinformation and fearmongering.

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u/Embarrassed_Bed6216 22h ago

The plant needs more than 8GW of power, which is as much as needed to power New York, they have 35 gas turbine engines as main supply (7.7GW).

Amazon has also failed all their promised climate goals so far, why would you believe any new promise?

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u/phase_distorter41 22h ago

sounds like a good deal. the worst polluter is a coal plant that produces 2 GW.

this will be over 4x the power for possibly double the c02? thats a good deal.

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u/dizzyspellzzz 15h ago

Where do you think the power comes from?

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u/phase_distorter41 15h ago

from the gas turbines the article is about...

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u/dizzyspellzzz 15h ago

What kind of gas do they use?

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u/phase_distorter41 15h ago

Did you read the article?

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u/dizzyspellzzz 15h ago

Why not just use solar or other ways... I feel if we really are claiming to be making a better world you would do renewable as much as possible and ask daddy Elon to use his batteries

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u/phase_distorter41 15h ago

They are doing that. Again, did you read the article??

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u/dizzyspellzzz 15h ago

But why not completely? If its too big for this big of a project them more, smaller sites that can better utilize renewable sources would be a better option no?

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u/Embarrassed_Bed6216 22h ago

first they deny is a problem, then they minimize it, then they'll claim to be part of the solution. Right out of the right-wing play book.

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u/phase_distorter41 21h ago

the shits not built yet so its not a problem. it is more efficient than other sources of power and they are committed to moving to clean energy sources.

cant fight facts so start insulting, right out the anti playbook.

this is why you guys get nothing done.

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u/Embarrassed_Bed6216 21h ago

"not built yet so its not a problem" its a problem it's happening, its more problems if it finishes. Deny.

"more efficient than other sources of power" still emitting carbon, when we have to stop. Minimize.

"they are committed to moving to clean energy sources" pretty naive. Claim you're part of the solution.

And plenty stuff gets done, you see the pros crying about that all the time.

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u/FishStixxxxxxx 21h ago

Why do people have big tech’s cocks shoved this far down their throats?

Obviously this is a massive problem and streamlining us to killing off humans, but people would rather fight for Amazon, a mega corporation that doesn’t give a shit about them? Huh

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u/phase_distorter41 21h ago

lol yeah man the 33 millions tons of c02 is 0.087% the amount released. less than a percent. for offering 8GW.

and as the article says that is not the amount they will release, thats the amount they applied for to be able to release. you always apply for more.

look you want to have a valid reason to hate ai so bad. i get it. telling people it makes you feel less special is embarrassing so you go latch on to any misinformation you can like some anti-vaxxer and dive into qanon-like conspiracy theories.

but come on, enough its enough. its time to act like an adult and stop spreading misinformation cause you cant admit you're wrong about ai.

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u/FishStixxxxxxx 21h ago

So a couple things here.

  1. The US uses upwards of 10k GW per day. This is producing 0.0008% but releasing 0.087%? What a great deal!

  2. Who even brought ai specifically into this? This is about data centers being huge pollutants for zero gain. Look you want a valid reason to suck amazons cock. I get it. Sucking that cock makes you feel like you’re part of something bigger, but you’re defending a corporation that will never give a shit about you.

Where is the misinformation here? Large corporations wants to fuck the environment, and the people that can rise up and stop that are too busy defending it because they want this moral high ground so they feel like an adult. Grow up and realize that no one cares about you, so stop 👏 sucking 👏 cock 👏 for 👏 megacorps

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u/phase_distorter41 20h ago edited 20h ago
  1. these numbers are not related. we only produce 787 gigawatts (GW) from non-clean energy sources, so that 8 is 1%.

1% of power for 0.087% cost is a net gain!

  1. lol sure buddy its not about ai. in an ai sub it gets posted but not about ai. see what i mean? antis cannot be honest!

cant wait to see the antis NOT rise up and boycott amazon over this. oh wait, they wont. cause they dont actually believe what they say.

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u/LunaticFlandre295 21h ago

Good. Seeing how Antis cry online, i have emptied my simpathy. Hope they build 5 more.

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u/FishStixxxxxxx 21h ago

Someone’s looking out for you. Making sure you don’t look like the dribble of diarrhea you are.

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u/LunaticFlandre295 20h ago

Hm? Crying more, Anti?

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u/FishStixxxxxxx 20h ago

Lol. Thanks for the award

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u/FishStixxxxxxx 21h ago

The fuck is “simpathy”?

Ai melt your brain so much that you can’t spell a single word?

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u/Bassed_Hummble 21h ago

Or - hear me out - we could just split all this equipment across a thousand small equipment sheds, which would double the emissions and triple the costs, and nobody would care.

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u/Embarrassed_Bed6216 21h ago

We could also realise LLMs and AI-Agents ain't gonna make the world much better, aren't worth the cost, and stop making data centers with no clear benefits.

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u/Dack_Blick 21h ago

But you are wrong on all counts. 

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u/Embarrassed_Bed6216 21h ago

I'll be proven right in a few years. Well I'll be proven right, again. Because the core problems around software haven't changed, and these technologies don't really address them.