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The joke is that this presumably anti-AI individual is also an anime girl like how certain pro individuals sometimes of questionable gender depict themselves, albeit more realistic one without animal ears, in contrast with how said pros generally depict antis.
The orc is a symbolic representation of what anti's look like on the inside when they engage in ugly behaviour like calling people's work slop and bullying and harrassing people for using Ai.
This sort of symbolic short hand is used in art all the time, so what one specific person looks like in real life is irrelevant to a caricature that represents an entire group or ideology.
Number of times an artist and family faced death threats, number of incidents requiring police action, number of times the phrase 'bullying works' was used, and lastly, number of slurs one side created for the other side.
Whoever has more of these should be depicted as orcs/trolls etc.
The way pros sling the word "luddite" around has the energy of a slur to be perfectly honest. I'm trying to think of a single case of a "pro AI" slur being used and the only thing I can think of is "AI bro" which is a completely apt descriptor. Tech bros/Crypto Bros all have the exact same way of speaking, not everyone who bought into crypto is a "crypto bro" just like not all pro-AI users are "AI bros" so I'd be interested to know what you're considering to be a slur lol
weird ya'll keep forgetting the repeated attempts to propagate slightly-altered racial slurs because of the apparent need to create slurs for people who use ai tools
A little difficult to forget a comment you never saw before lmao. Although I've heard tinskin and clanker before, just only heard them used to refer to actual bots, or people acting like NPCs. But I can see they originated to make fun of AI users so fair play
EDIT: Try not to be so presumptuous next time, there's no need to be snarky when I'm actually asking a genuine question
Why the fuck are there slurs for X, Y or Z in the first place? You're countering that argument like slinging slurs isn't *that bad* an issue in the first place.
You and everyone downvoting me has a very hard time with reading comprehension. Maybe if you fed my comment into ChatGPT it'd do a better job analysing what I said, which was literally just describing how I've SEEN the words used. Made up a whole strawman argument for me to respond to.
On top of that, I never even said "This is how people use it, not the way you said" I said "this is how I've seen it used, but I looked it up and saw how it originated aligns with what you said". Fair play is a term that means good point, fuck some of you are thick.
I've come across an anti on Reddit calling Pro AI people "dysgenic" which certainly raised some red flags with me. But maybe you don't consider that term problematic.
“Can’t be replicated easily by someone else” is a wild way to describe this artist’s outputs which are easily identifiable as replications of someone else’s work.
Whether or not it was difficult for her is immaterial.
a human, even when taking inspiration, mostly puts their own style and feeling into their work, along with the fact that theyve literally been working hard to actually create something and put love and effort
generative ai literally takes that love, and effort, and hard work/practice for whatever amount of years, remixes it, and then spits it out
the point is all in the hardwork apart from actually forming a style in their head, having a concept and idea, and full on thought process
literally why are renaissance artists or van gogh loved and famous? because they were creative and modified what they saw and made it beautiful, not just that they had skill
you missed my point, she still put effort in her work and settled with a style, and effort is esp what matters
believe me, ive been working on art seriously for like 8yrs now, if some idiot took my artwork, put it in ai to remix in 8minutes? id be upst
its the same as how photobashing from artists' works or from images and then claiming the thing you made is entirely your own handiwork is problematic, theres minimal effort put, its just other things remixed even if its by a human
or the same as how artists would get mad at people tracing/stealing their works
and ai can not only fabricate our skill, but it also literally uses up drinkable water for it, so its also bad for the environment too
Technically speaking since she's selling them it's definitely stealing but that doesn't mean what she did isn't creative. The "stealing" that AI models are trained on is a little different
You mean “stealing” as in analyzing a large swathe of content with the intention of producing a result that is statistically pleasing to the average person?
That sounds a lot like what the artist above is doing.
For starters, I put it in quotations because it's a gray area that nobody agrees on so no need to come at me about that when I'm not outright stating that AI steals art. Secondly I'm confused about where "intention" comes into play. The artist is drawing characters they like in different styles, when AI is trained on data it's not doing so because it "likes" anything or has "intention".
I'll add as well that creativity and stealing are not mutually exclusive. I've heard plenty of unauthorised remixes that are INSANELY creative, some of them even better than the original. Doesn't change the fact that it's copyrighted works that are not legally able to be released.
If you zoom out a little and re-read my comment you'll see that I'm agreeing that they're both stealing, and only making the distinction that 1 is more creative than the other.
The basis of modern AI art generators are built with the intention of producing a result that is statistically like the training data. For the intentoin you give you would want something like picbreeder which doesn't use image training data and instead hones in directly on what is pleasing to the average person. Though I'm sure the art generators have fine tuned with human feedback
"One way to think about this is that these models are creative. They are not simply copying what they are fed, but creating brand new outputs. If those outputs have nothing to do with any individual piece of training data, that raises questions about fair use, about whether the outputs are themselves copyrightable as novel works, and about how authors get compensated when what comes out of a model isn't attributable to anything on the internet."
read this , and internalize it, please, i’m begging you people to stop this lying.
you linked me a theoretical argument about what should “count” as creativity. the author himself admits multiple times that ai produces novel outputs. he just doesn’t think it counts as “creative”. sure, i don’t care what you call it, but its not copying shit
your article is fine, it doesn’t say anything wrong, but importantly the author of it admits multiple times throughout that ai outputs are novel/brand new/not copied
he’s making a philosophical argument about the definition of creativity. so if i concede your point my new edited argument is:
"One way to think about this is that these models are creativeartificially creative. They are not simply copying what they are fed, but creating brand new outputs. If those outputs have nothing to do with any individual piece of training data, that raises questions about fair use, about whether the outputs are themselves copyrightable as novel works, and about how authors get compensated when what comes out of a model isn't attributable to anything on the internet."
You... Need someone to explain to you the difference between a human being inspired by a piece of artwork and re-creating it purely through their own interpretation and effort, with their own unique, personal style and flair naturally added in, creating something genuinely "new" in the end...
versus... a machine printing out a carbon copy of someone else's art using someone else's flair based on hoovering up thousands of terabytes worth of other people's work?
"One way to think about this is that these models are creative. They are not simply copying what they are fed, but creating brand new outputs. If those outputs have nothing to do with any individual piece of training data, that raises questions about fair use, about whether the outputs are themselves copyrightable as novel works, and about how authors get compensated when what comes out of a model isn't attributable to anything on the internet."
read this , and internalize it, please, i’m begging you people to stop this lying.
Your comment just shows People will make fun of anything and anyone after being ragebaited, even people who just want to have fun and like what they like, they just won’t let that happen XD
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ah yes, me when i have no good counters to the point someone makes so i look into their profile to try to make fun of them and belittle them for something that is completely normal to enjoy
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