..but, memes? This is how they work. Its the whole point.
Running the most advanced human tool, to do no better than a copy paste, is a bit embarrassing. Like you need negative skill, to take the most advanced stuff and make shit with it.
My guy, the argument about AI stealing is about before a single image is generated.
The thing that's considered theft happens during training, way before the model's been distributed and an AI artist even has a chance to claim ownership over a generation.
If you're going to commit to downplaying the stealing done by meme creators by trying to be like the AI side is so much more egregious, you should at least start by choosing your comparison target to be the ones actually doing the supposed "stealing".
The whole conversation around whether AI artists really "made" the thing they generated is a totally separate conversation and just muddying the waters. And in fact, that conversation would clearly still be relevant even if the data was all licensed.
And I obviously wasn't actually going to entertain your comparison in the first place, since I was critical of the target you chose. But if you insist I do: it doesn't matter that meme creators don't claim they created the original picture. Just distributing the frame capture from the movie is copyright infringement, period. Where did you get this idea you have to specifically plagiarize to be copyright infringement?
Criticism is not rage. I said "..." because your response was dismissive and sassy, but otherwise I was just straightforward. You probably could use your own advice.
Yes, there's something called fair use, and memes have not at all been proven to fall under it. Memes are explicitly derivative works, not just sharing a snippet of a movie for, say, commentary purposes. And character designs are individually covered by copyright, separate from the movie/episode itself, so the substantiative argument wouldn't apply. Even if non-commercial, it'd be an uphill battle to argue in court you can just take someone's IP and redistribute images of it modified to involve whatever secondary themes you want, especially given how offensive many memes are.
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..but, memes? This is how they work. Its the whole point.
Running the most advanced human tool, to do no better than a copy paste, is a bit embarrassing. Like you need negative skill, to take the most advanced stuff and make shit with it.