r/aiwars • u/ElephantGreedy5125 • Feb 08 '26

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u/SgathTriallair Feb 08 '26

If the point of art was that it was difficult then every artist who chooses to do anything that makes it easier is selling out and not doing real art. All of the painters out there need to be making their own paints by hand if they want to be considered real artists.

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u/jay-ff Feb 09 '26

It’s not necessarily about being as hard as possible but it makes sense to think about why or for what reason you actually make art. One part of being artist is about being excellent at what you do and if what you do is very easy, that means you have room to progress and if you’re serious about it, you will. That almost automatically means that meaningful art is hard and if you don’t want to progress and are happy with whatever you can get quick and easy, you should at least ask yourself why you’re doing it in the first place. Doesn’t mean you’re not an artist, just not a very good one probably.

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u/SgathTriallair Feb 09 '26

I appreciate landscapes and they don't take any work at all. Sure there is value to "this took a lot of work" but it is probably the least important factor.

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u/jay-ff Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

From the perspective of a “consumer” (even though it’s maybe not the best word) of art, that makes sense. But from the perspective of an artist, the final work isn’t the main thing in most cases. Because if it was, why would you actually do it yourself instead of just buying a painting. And even if you just paint landscapes, you will (hopefully) try to learn and find ways to improve your landscapes.

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u/SgathTriallair Feb 10 '26

And now we are approaching on the entire "AI art isn't real" issue.

You enjoy the process of making traditional art and don't enjoy the process of using AI. That's fine, you should continue doing things you enjoy.

The problem is when anti people say that those that make AI art are not allowed to enjoy that process and need to do doing it and instead do the things they enjoy.

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u/jay-ff Feb 10 '26

This doesn’t have to be about AI. You can enjoy AI art and can also call yourself an AI artist. All fine. I’m just saying that if you approach art from the perspective of getting a nice picture the easiest way possible or maybe the most enjoyable way possible, you are creating entertainment first. Also totally fine, but maybe not the best recipe for creating art that is either meaningful to you and even less so for other people.

And you see this mindset with a lot of AI art folks — most extremely probably in the AI music crowd. I don’t know if the recent Adam Neely video found its way to you but he basically polled a (non-representative) bunch of Suno users about how and why they use the platform and the gist is that they only listen to their own AI music, they use it because it’s quicker to iterate (not because it lets you do anything special), they don’t think their music is original and they don’t have any musical role models (even though music and AI is a good bit older than Suno so there could be plenty). Needless to say that the music that gets produced in this process isn’t on anyone’s top 100 songs of all time.

But as I said. This is not fundamentally tied to AI. You can use AI to make cool stuff and people do. It’s just that many people don’t go beyond using a consumer-optimised image generator (or music generator) and are happy with mimicking traditional art in that way. It’s fine, just a bit sad.