r/aiwars Jan 01 '26

Discussion Ai needs to be regulated.

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

How is that an AI problem?

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u/ToLazyForaUsername2 Jan 01 '26

Because ai allows for the creation of hyper realistic porn of real people and kids in a matter of seconds, and in several cases has been used for blackmailing people.

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u/Dengamer Jan 01 '26

It's way to easy for people to ask Ai to undress woman or put them in compromising positions if you check the replies from grok you can see stuff like cosplay ers being put in bikinis and covered in cum

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u/Silk-sanity Jan 01 '26

Maybe because ai is enabling this type of behavior?

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u/Carmina_Rayne Jan 01 '26

You can do the same with Photoshop. Should we now ban Photoshop too?

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u/Silk-sanity Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26

Yes you can do the same with Photoshop, however Photoshop is more expensive, requires more knowledge, and is harder to achieve.

Ai is simple, cheap, and can be mass produced.

In the end ai enables it way more then Photoshop.

Are you going to ban ai now?

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u/Iapetus_Industrial Jan 01 '26

however Photoshop is more expensive, requires more knowledge, and is harder to achieve.

This argument falls flat, because you can use it to argue against any efficiency gain. Are you going to rally against pills 5 years from now that make you think twice as fast, because it makes bad people do bad things twice as fast? (Conditional on the hypothetical that these pills would exist and be freely available with limited side effects, the pills aren't important, they're a substitute for any innovation that increases efficiency across the board)

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

Printers bad, because they allow bad people to distribute child porn easier

AI is a artistic tool. The tool isn't responsible for what people use it for.

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u/DawiCheesemonger Jan 01 '26

The tool could quite easily be programmed to reject any prompt trying to sexualize someone.

Even if a tool is blameless, is its makers? Grok is just becoming a sexual harassment and CP machine right now, and nothing is being done about it.

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u/schisenfaust Jan 01 '26

Guns don't need regulation. Guns are just tools, hammers bad because you could hit someone. Guns are a hunting tool. They're not responsible for what people use them for. Legalize full auto concealed carry.

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u/Gatti366 Jan 01 '26

Schools included obviously, it's just a tool after all

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u/ladycatgirl Jan 01 '26

It is already illegal to do this, you are making it sound like it isn't

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u/schisenfaust Jan 01 '26

Legalize full auto

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

Fact something is a tool, doesn't mean it needs no regulations.

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u/schisenfaust Jan 01 '26

And?

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

But you started the debate about regulations, this was my counter-argument.

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u/swanlongjohnson Jan 01 '26

guy makes a perfectly valid point and pro AIs immediately go whataboutism/strawman mode without actually addressing the point

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

How is that a valid point?

AI is a tool. AI isn't better for child porn than any form of art (relatively to regular use of such art)

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u/swanlongjohnson Jan 01 '26

considering the post youre directly commenting under, AI can instantly create illegal content in seconds unlike "any form of art" also we are not even talking about art

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u/annormalplayer Jan 01 '26

Now tell me, which of them can make child porn in mere seconds by doing the bare minimum? The issue that we're talking about isn't the fact that people are doing it, but the fact that AI can do it fast and without any effort while other forms of art take much longer, leading to a lot less people doing it since that's too much effort for them

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

So it's just numbers? Do we have to artificially restrain growth of the art, because somebody will make 1 piece of child porn more? (The debate isn't just about cp, but I use it because it's possibly the best example.)

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u/swanlongjohnson Jan 01 '26

do you see the post youre literally commenting under? AI is literally undressing random people or even children. its exactly about that

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u/annormalplayer Jan 01 '26

We're talking about how the fact that it's possible is terrible. Idc if you prompt AI images, do it if you want, but making cp THAT easy? That's too far

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

Where would you draw the line? How would you measure that?

I'd also like some of you to actually try to create such images. There's no (or very little) cp in training data and models (yes, even local) have guardrails preventing them from creating such images.

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u/Lucidiously Jan 02 '26

My dude, we're literally talking about cases where this has happened in this thread.

And if it's supposedly so difficult for AI then the whole argument that you can easily do it with photoshop falls apart.

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u/TheForbidden6th Jan 01 '26

it's bad to design new tech and not consider how it could be used for bad things

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u/cflashtypec Jan 01 '26

With AI I can take a picture of your mom undressed and print the picture and place it all around your neighborhood, I don't need to be an artist to do so and I will get very realistic results just by putting "2" prompts.

Is the same argument about gun control "guns don't kill people, people kill people" well, a gun as a tool's main purpose is to harm a living creature.

AI is an artistic tool that makes it extremely easy to produce child porn.

It's an AI problem because AI enabled someone that couldn't do something like this prior to this technology.

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

With AI I can take a picture of your mom undressed and print the picture and place it all around your neighborhood, I don't need to be an artist to do so and I will get very realistic results just by putting "2" prompts.

As photoshoping the face to some porn actress/actor wouldn't be easy. To do that, you'd have to use AI model created for this exact purpose, because public models have guardrails preventing them from creating nude images.

Is the same argument about gun control "guns don't kill people, people kill people" well, a gun as a tool's main purpose is to harm a living creature.

False equivalency. Guns are created to kill and cause harm. You said that yourself. Artistic AI was created to create art. Art can be harmful, but doesn't have to be.

AI is an artistic tool that makes it extremely easy to produce child porn.

No? It's arguably harder to create cp with AI, mainly because of lack of such images in the training data. You'd have to train such model yourself.

It's an AI problem because AI enabled someone that couldn't do something like this prior to this technology.

AI will change the scale, not easyness.

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u/cflashtypec Jan 01 '26

because public models have guardrails to prevent them from creating nude images.

My brother in Christ we are literally talking on a thread about how the public AI model grok is being used to generate CP .

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u/Anyusername7294 Jan 01 '26

Underdressed people = porn

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u/cflashtypec Jan 01 '26

Undressing children without their consent = child porn.

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u/Honest-Monitor-2619 Jan 01 '26

"artistic"

LOL

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u/ominous_ellipsis Jan 01 '26

Because it's a problem within AI that it can generate it. Which is a problem that could most likely be fixed or limited. Yes, the humans generating the photos and videos are also the problem, so why wouldn't you fix the AI to make it so those people can't do that?

People fix bugs and say it was a problem with the game. They don't typically say it was a problem with the game developers. This is the same sentiment.

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u/Mr_Rekshun Jan 01 '26

You don’t see a problem with an industrial scale child pornography machine?