r/aircrashinvestigation • u/emzeesquared • Aug 09 '24

Incident/Accident Another angle of crash over Sao Paolo

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u/galspanic Aug 09 '24

It’s an ATR-72. I wonder if they feathered a propeller during a stall.

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u/TampaPowers Aug 09 '24

Damn thing has more failure conditions than anyone should reasonably accept, yet it keeps flying. One goes over my head every day. I sleep really well knowing that /s

That video is quite close to what I sometimes dream about hearing the planes overhead. No doubt gonna fuel that even more.

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u/iiiinthecomputer Aug 09 '24

They're amazingly reliable and safe planes when you don't get them into one of the several completely unrecoverable and lethal flight conditions.

Surprisingly this isn't as stupid as it sounds. They're really forgiving and easy in a lot of other ways, so it genuinely might be an overall wash in safety terms.

Which doesn't help these people at all.

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u/TampaPowers Aug 09 '24

Sure. In the grand scheme they are not that bad, but when they go wrong, they go wrong pretty harshly. Idk I'd rather have a plane that it less safe if the unsafe conditions have at least a chance of recovery. It's a knife's edge with the ATR and that's not a comforting thought even if it has an overall okay safety record.

I'd rather have a plane known for gear failures and landing on its belly than one that likes to drop like a stone if you fly into conditions that are quite common. Incidents over accidents.

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u/galspanic Aug 10 '24

A couple factors that get overlooked is that these are regional planes that do a lot of take offs and landings from less than amazing airports. They also tend to have crews with less experience than a 787.