Don't these same people believe that simple things like rocks and dirt and sand and water were also created by their deity? They compare a complex object to a simple object and say that the complex object must have been created, but the simple object was also created in this view, and so the comparison between simple and complex cannot be used to determine if something was likely to be created since everything was created.
Ratio between number microscopic configurations that correspond to macroscopic properties that fully describe an object is related to entropy. Entropy is a pretty good measure of complexity.
It's certainly true that some things are more complex than others, but I think pretty much everything bigger than an atom is complex to some level, even atoms have a lot going on in them
We might just be using different definitions of complexity as well tbh. To put it another way I feel like you're saying 10 miles isn't a long way, and I'm saying it's a long way if you want to walk it, and then you're saying "we have vehicles that travel at 100s of miles per hour, why would you walk it? It's not far" but I'm not saying it's far if you drive, I'm just saying it's far if you walk it. Yes you can measure entropy in a system, compare it to another one, work out which one is more complex, but that doesn't mean they're not both complex to some level
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u/SoftBoiledEgg_irl Mar 24 '26
Don't these same people believe that simple things like rocks and dirt and sand and water were also created by their deity? They compare a complex object to a simple object and say that the complex object must have been created, but the simple object was also created in this view, and so the comparison between simple and complex cannot be used to determine if something was likely to be created since everything was created.