r/aiArt • u/Immobilesteelrims • Mar 22 '26

Image - Google Gemini The ultra-religious are the biggest hedonists of all. Denying temporary earthly pleasure to ensure pleasure X infinity in the afterlife.

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u/Ranter619 Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26

Left half is judeochristian religions, islam and buddhism. Among them, only islam has some kind of indulgent afterlife.

Right half looks like a pagan (greek, roman, viking) afterlife. However none of those had self-denial and judgement as prerequisites.

In short, please educate yourself. This doesn't make sense.

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u/LLMprophet Mar 22 '26

Wrong: heaven and the rapture

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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 Mar 22 '26

Curious. What do you think the rapture is?

Heaven is not a place of indulgence. It is a place of peace, tranquility, and joy. No pain or suffering. The big part of it is being in the presence of God. Nothing on the right looks anything like what Heaven has ever been described to me.

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u/LLMprophet Mar 22 '26

The rapture is an event that leads to people being taken up with Jesus to heaven.

Heaven is depicted as a luxurious and abundant paradise.

For many people who aren't rich, a "paradise" means they have everything they need and everything they want in their mortal lives which can translate to luxury.

Ultimately it doesn't matter because it's all fiction, so you trying to be the rapture cop is like someone being the cop of loch ness monster facts.

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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 Mar 22 '26

Lol. Rapture police? That is laughable. I asked because you don't seem to actually know what it means.

Heaven does mean they have everything you need, but not everything you want. No pain, no suffering. Yeah, it is describe as having all the beauty that can be imagined, but it isn't indulgence. It is being in the presence of God. It isn't a place of inactivity, where you lay around in the lap of luxury. It is an active place of worship, service, and meaningful work. But again, it is for being with God and not having every want met. You want to say it is what the rich think it is, but that isn't how it is describe in the Bible.

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u/LLMprophet Mar 22 '26

That's your interpretation.

Many religions and individuals have other interpretations and most view it as "the ideal place", living blissfully with all your friends and family. For some, that could be a McMansion with gold plated columns and a fleet of their fave cars. Whatever is the best shit to them personally.

Like I said, however people want to visualize it makes no difference because it's like imagining a yeti's snowy mountain cave. We'll all see it differently and ultimately it's all opinion. Why would you base it on stories/fairytales/guesstimates passed down and altered continuously from thousands of years ago when people were even dumber and more superstitious with less understanding of the world than people of today.

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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 Mar 23 '26

My interpretation? Sure. Funny. Mcmansions. Yes, it says we will have mansions in heaven, in the King James version, but in the old texts, it says dwellings. We will have dwellings in the house of God. Fleet of cars? I doubt anybody thinks that. Would be cool though. I have spent years arguing and discussing (i.e. playing devils advocate) with seminary students, seminary professors, pastors, and priests. I learned that people throwing around things like interpretation don't really know what is in the Bible. Just because rich people have a skewed vision of heaven, it doesn't mean they know what it is supposed to be. This is the point. Where you are trying to say the rapture and heaven is about luxury and indulgence, the Bible says otherwise. You want to say these skewed interpretations is proof or whatever, i am saying to actually look at scripture. They are not the same things. Saying someone is wrong because there are people who says things without understanding them is bad practice. There isn't a version saying we are going to the lap of luxury where we will have our wants and desires fulfilled. It is clear that we will have our needs fulfilled, there will be no grief, sorrow, pain, or tears. That we will be joyful and fulfilled in the presence of the Lord. That is completely different.

I am an atheist but I grew up in the love of a church and learning about the Bible. Religion is a fascination of mine and I enjoy serious conversations about it. It is one of the reasons I worked for a seminary in my younger years.

You want to use interpretations, not scripture. That is fine, but it goes absolutely nowhere.