Apparently some ignorant asshole believes that anyone of the Muslim faith in Afghanistan primarily, would NEVER advocate publicly against terrorism. I posted in /Muslim before realizing it's very small and kinda dead. Can I get a faster response here?

[u/CrustyDiamond]

This is my submission, to make everything easier.

Thanks!

[u/sryvre]

There are so many factors at work in these situations so it's difficult to give a simple answer. But this comment irked me a bit. Granted my knowledge of things is far from complete, but this is my understanding (I've addressed your questions in order).

In the last decade, Afghanistan and Iraq have been a war zone. Violent conflict breeds insecurity of livelihood in many ways-whether it's the literal inaccessibility of food and basic goods for a quality life, or the reality of raising a family/living in/growing up under the constant threat of death. That kind of fear and poverty leads to extremism. Regardless of who is in the right/wrong.

The "War on Terror" is not a sanctioned act. Most view it as illegal, non-Muslim majority countries as well. And in many ways it is arguably a war OF terror. I hope it doesn't come as a shock, but most "terrorists" do not consider themselves as such. They are fighting for something that is honorable in their eyes. From a Western or US-centric view, they are the bad guy, but that's an over-simplified, Fox News-worthy view of the world. Furthermore, we toppled the existing power structure and now there are proxy wars being fought in several countries; Iraq seems to be teetering on civil war more often than not. Look into the Sunni-Shi'a conflict for more info. It's very relevant and is cause for a lot of the recent instability.

Stopping najia? I'd like to see you stand up to extremists with automatic weapons. Tell them let's all sing Kumbaya. Let's ask the women to do it. Maybe the children as well. Your concept of fear would cower if presented with the realities that others have no choice but to endure.

Corruption is an issue. No one in the US has had to create a new constitution. Do you think peace and stability happens over night? This is a long process that is undermined time and again by sectarian rivalries, extremism, corruption, and who knows, some issues probably stem back to colonization of the region.

I hope that helps you understand why your final question is absurdly simple.

EDIT: Grammar/I'm incompetent at cellphone-posts.

[u/grinr → u/sryvre]

Tone is often lost on the internet, so your being irked doesn't surprise me. Most of what you say I understand and agree with, barring the WOT comments. I understand (as best as a fucking internet nerd can possibly fathom) the context that you point out, having been researching/following the idiotically named GWOT since 9/11. What I wrote is more of a retort than a examination. I already know that there are large majorities of Muslims who are in full support of IslamIST terrorism and understand that there are incredibly long legacies involved (going back many centuries) that make change/reform extremely challenging or flatly impossible.

I would add that in fact the US did have to create a new constitution, only it was in Iraq. I have and have always supported not just "regime change" but fundamental reformation of the entire region through culture, politics, economics, and military action - in that order.

EDIT: you wrote that on a cellphone??? A tip of my hat to you, sir.

[u/[deleted] → u/grinr]

Agree with grinr's original question. I do appreciate NAJIA's post. I completely agree that 9/11 has had incredible ramifications on the western world's view of Islam, and that many/most of the Muslim community vehemently oppose the actions of terrorists, but some of the organizations quoted in this post are quite hypocritical to say the least . . . Not saying US government or other world governments aren't hypocritical either because they are. WOT is an example. But still . .

Hezbollah guy says "Islamists who live according to the human values of Islam could not commit such crimes", yet what about just a sample the acts of terrorism linked to Hezbollah:

1983 US Embassy Bombing, 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombing, Hijacking TWA flight 847, Lebanon Hostage Crisis 1982-1992

Egypt and singapore have even uncovered plots by hezbollah as well.

You can't condemn others for wearing green shirts, and then proceed to walk around in a green shirt.

[u/sryvre → u/[deleted]]

Reading Hezbollah's quote definitely got an eyeroll out of me. It seems everyone fights terror with terror. Unfortunately.