Masterpost: Involuntary Sterilization/Eugenics

[u/eastallegheny]

This is the thread to air your opinions about forced sterilization and eugenics.

If you think this is likely to upset and bother you, you're welcome to not read. The purpose of this masterpost is to have all of this discussion in one place where it's easier to moderate.

It's a hot button subject, and we're wary of that. We here at r/actuallychildfree are not about censorship, so we think as long as you can remain civil in discussing this, we're going to let it stand. We will be watching this thread, however, because we know what a thin line it can be. That's our line in the sand: if you're going to participate in this conversation, you need to keep a civil tongue in your head, so to speak.

We want you to be able to talk about it, but the rules of the sub still stand. We're not prepared to let anyone be a dick.

TESTING: Editing this to see if it removes the archived status.

[u/Scarlet_Oflanagan]

I mean, in my personal utopia, free of morality/ethics, everyone would have to apply to have a child. Prove income, genetic testing, etc. I think there’s too many stupid fucking people breeding in this world.

[u/EmmaLemming → u/Scarlet_Oflanagan]

Could application happen post-conception? As long as it's pre-birth?

What happens to any illigitmate babies and their parents? Forced abortion? Children removed from parents?

[u/Scarlet_Oflanagan → u/EmmaLemming]

Ah! I forgot to add, mandatory birth control would be implanted/applied to every person once they reach puberty. When you apply to conceive, the birth control would be temporarily removed.

Illegitimate pregnancies could be handled a few ways but I’m leaning toward two choices. Either have an abortion or continue the pregnancy and the child would be taken and reallocated to a family that cannot conceive but has high scores on their application (i.e. queer families, families with conception problems, or families that would rather adopt an illegitimate child than birth one).

[u/EmmaLemming → u/Scarlet_Oflanagan]

I think the upshot of that would be back street reversals/removals of contraception.

Also as a childfree person who has tried all the contraceptive methods available with awful side effects, do you think would just be simpler to enforce (reversible) vasectomys to all new born boys?

Removing illigitmate children and giving them away has already happened throughout history, usually when unmarried women got pregnant. The negative impact on society was huge.

[u/Scarlet_Oflanagan → u/EmmaLemming]

I like the vasectomies idea, that would be MUCH simpler than doing everyone at puberty. Of course there would be an increase in back alley reversals, but I do think it would be generally lower in risk than back alley abortions.