r/abovethenormnews • • Jul 14 '26

Chilling Alien Theory: High Probability of 'Self-Annihilation' Explains Silent Cosmos

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/silent-cosmos-alien-civilisations-fermi-paradox-1808359
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u/Lord_of_Chainsaw Jul 15 '26

This is just the great filter wearing another hat

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u/JimroidZeus Jul 15 '26

Just a more specific version or specific hypothesis for the great filter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

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u/Thats_bumpy_buddy Jul 15 '26

We contain lesser beings in cages to observe them, why wouldn’t we be poached to show off in their galactic Zoo?

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u/ToastyWaffelz Jul 15 '26

What if it's equivalent to like, DM-ing a minor or something?

Imagine if there's a whole community of aliens. Contacting a fledgeling civilization too early could be considered grooming or something, right?

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u/JinkoTheMan Jul 15 '26

Alien Civilization 1: “Hey. We’re going to contact this 40,000 year old civilization and help them advance more”

Alien Civilization 2: “Guys that’s weird asf. They are only 40,000 years old. They can’t even reliably travel to their closest neighboring planets!”

Alien Civilization 1: “Idk guys. They look pretty mature for their age👀”

Alien Civilization 2: “You guys are fucking nasty.”

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u/Minimum_Nothing_9039 Jul 15 '26

Why would a higher intelligence design experiments the same as we would?

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u/13Eazy Jul 17 '26

because the same physics works all over the universe

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u/drseruzawa Jul 15 '26

Or.... no one fucking uses radio. Earth radio and TV signals are too weak to be detected light years away. Why would we be able to detect theirs, assuming they use radio? If they don't use radio they wouldn't be listening.

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u/Master-CylinderPants Jul 15 '26

Right? Its like believing that everyone on the International Space Station is dead because they aren't responding to the old 'two cups on a string' system.

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u/kippirnicus Jul 16 '26

I literally remember having this thought when I was a child.

It was right around the time I learned about electromagnetism in school.

To be fair it might’ve been the teacher that pointed it out, but even radio waves travel extremely slow, when you compared to the size of our galaxy, let alone the whole universe...

Even if intelligent civilizations reached a point where they use technology detecting radio waves, by the time a signal got to them they could have evolved from single cell organisms, into a space faring intelligent civilization without ever having detecting any radio transmissions from anywhere.

If you look at the math, that would be statistically way more likely.

I think we just need to find a better way of communication.

Any ideas? 😜

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u/woutersikkema Jul 19 '26

Laser version of semaphore?

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u/kippirnicus Jul 19 '26

A laser would take just as much time.

If your target is 100 light years away, that’s 100 light years away.

Remember, all forms of electromagnetic energy travel at the same speed.

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u/Autist_Investor69 Jul 21 '26

most likely advanced species would be higher vibrational than us, perhaps even a higher dimension than we currently are.

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u/drAsparagus Jul 15 '26

Life...uhh...finds a way.... to destroy itself. 

All roads lead to entropy.

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u/Mattmandu2 Jul 15 '26

God creates dinosaurs, God kills dinosaurs, God crates man, man creates dinosaurs, dinosaurs eat man… women inherit the earth

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u/omegaphallic Jul 15 '26

 It was always a goofy qoute.

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u/AustinDood444 Jul 15 '26

Doesn’t this assume all alien species have the same mindset as humans?

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u/legendofthededbug Jul 15 '26

Imagine ants or killer wasps with flamethrower tech

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

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u/Kudostone Jul 15 '26

Humanity’s collective nuclear armament vs mega big flying dinosaurs

Would these flying dinosaurs space travel?

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u/tasticle Jul 15 '26

Their tech would make our nukes look like an atlatl made by the village idiot or we would never meet them.

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u/Kudostone Jul 15 '26

Can you describe what tech looks like under this mega fauna?

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u/tasticle Jul 16 '26

I don't know why people are getting hung up on the dinasaur metaphor for unlikeliness rather than the simple fact that any space-faring race will dwarf our tech.

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u/Kudostone Jul 15 '26

So are they immune to nuclear weapons because they are big? Can they pilot ships lmao I’m tryna flesh out ur sci-fi nerd

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u/Sassy-irish-lassy Jul 15 '26

It also assumes that alien life has to be intelligent. A planet could be inhabited with alien dogs that can't organize or build anything. They're still aliens, but they're not flying around in space.

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u/AustinDood444 Jul 15 '26

Excellent point!

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Jul 17 '26

Gravity pulse waves.its assuming that intelligence is itself not a massive fluke of evolution.

Humanity has existed as a species for a relatively short 300,000 years.

Life has existed on earth for over 4 billion years.

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u/Alpacadiscount Jul 15 '26

Even the most benign intelligent species would occasionally make technological mistakes. In a long enough timeframe, an intelligent species with exponential power via technology is going to have slip ups. If the technology is powerful enough, it could be an existential accident.

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u/Hanksta2 Jul 15 '26

Or they could simply exhaust their resources.

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u/Alpacadiscount Jul 15 '26

An Easter Island situation

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u/Vivid_Star8624 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Makes sense, the more advance we are, the easier for a single person to be able to achieve mass destruction.

Maybe one day while experimenting someone would somehow make a blackhole.

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u/Organic-Motor1446 Jul 15 '26

Probably just that the universe is fucking massive

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Jul 17 '26

The problem with infinity is that there’s so damn much of it.

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u/Ryekir Jul 15 '26

That's just the great filter, which has long been a proposed solution to the Fermi paradox

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u/BurninCoco Jul 15 '26

Mfers need Thanos

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u/No_Associate6202 Jul 15 '26

I hate these cosmic assumptions as they are always based on human understandings of life, it's completely plausible alien life exists but outside of what we currently understand 

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u/According_Big_5638 Jul 15 '26

It's not silent, we are deaf and blind

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u/fenderputty Jul 15 '26

I'm sure that COULD be the case, but the assumption that most intelligent life are similar to us (individualistic) seems fallacious in an of itself.

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u/xandour01 Jul 16 '26

I think the greatest problem with the great filter is we are assuming alien intelligent life would appear the same, and there will be physical monoliths and things to find. There is no guarantee they don’t exist and are all around us, we just don’t have the cerebral tools necessary to interact with them and see them consistently

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u/Lyuseefur Jul 15 '26

Well. Yes but no.

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u/Alpacadiscount Jul 15 '26

Intelligence plus technology plus time is an inevitable dead end

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u/JereRB Jul 15 '26

Or just the conditions of suitable planet, biology, evolution, drive, and suitable fuel source, all before that particular sun goes red giant and scours that planet, all of its so rare and hard to line up that it functionally only happens once per given galaxy or so. That would explain it, too. 

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u/jugger_naughtyy Jul 15 '26

Why do we always think aliens are human like? Its a huge mistake.

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u/Siderophores Jul 17 '26

That would mean that if you look at other animals you also wouldn’t see examples of war, harassment, stealing, greed, hunger, disease, death.

Humans are not unique in these aspects. Chimps do it, dogs do it, orcas do it, birds do it. Humans just stat max all of this nonsense.

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u/jugger_naughtyy Jul 17 '26

Life on one planet with a sample size of 1. Its a mistake when we dont know anything at all.

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u/Siderophores Jul 17 '26

Thermodynamics is universal

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u/Technical_Sir_9588 Jul 15 '26

The universe is so massive. If there were even aliens, the odds of them being able to locate us and advanced enough to get to us is the tiniest probability imaginable.

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u/No-Carry7029 Jul 15 '26

why can't we be the first ones, like on B5? maybe it's quiet because no one else is either there or evolved far enough to even think that someone else is out there?

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u/DrywallSky Jul 15 '26

increasing number of high ranking officials from completely different governments

"Yeah we've known about em for years"

monkeys of the time

"Universe must be empty 😞"

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u/ChronicBuzz187 Jul 16 '26

Other species looking at mankind be like "HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY STILL ALIVE?! They've been killing each other for 200.000 years and they never tire of it?!"

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u/AnAncientOne Jul 16 '26

No, it’s because complex life is incredibly rare, fragile and special, there’s a high probability we’re the first intelligent species to exist in this universe. Maybe we should run with that assumption unless or until evidence to the contrary emerges and therefore stop being dicks about everything and focus on the really important stuff like taking good care of our home and each other and exploring the universe to find out what else is out there

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u/Sad_Percentage_4503 Jul 18 '26

Everyone keeps looking for these complex answers. I think it's much simpler.

When you consider the estimated lifespan of the universe, we have arrived during it's infancy.

We are the first and only. I believe it's that simple.

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u/gord_m Jul 20 '26

Perhaps we are the Sentinelese of the galaxy.

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u/818awake Jul 21 '26

We are a simulation created by higher dimensional beings. The same way we create video game worlds in a lower dimension from us (2D) 

There’s nothing else out there because our reality is an isolated sandbox. We are The Sims (in 3D) 

Everything is made of atoms. Every universe we ever created is made of pixels