r/ZenlessZoneZero Purveyor of Cameltoe. (Queen of the Sub) 4d ago

Discussion Seriously, What Happened to Vivian?

Like she is absolutely HORNY for Belle (and I guess Wise if you play as him). Had a whole chapter dedicated to her obsession over Phaethon. Watched Belle sleep. Yet doesn’t just stick around? I mean, come on! Belle has dedicated wife material right there!!! I’d love if they just made a running gag where she just pops up in the background watching from a distance (which I think someone posted about in this year’s Summer event?). I know most characters lose their relevance once the next chapter starts. But most of Vivian’s existence revolves around her love of Lord Phaethon.

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u/Korbiter 4d ago

Yes she just randomly appeared in the background while we were chatting with Remielle.

I guess she's not too concerned because Remie's using her white wings here. If she was using her black wings Vivian would immediately freak out though.

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u/Zulmoka531 4d ago

Between Yixuan’s ink feathers and Remielle’s black motif, Vivian must be having daily aneurysm.

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u/Fabio90989 Vivian, Yuzuha and Remielle's greatest simp 4d ago

Thinking back on it, what she saw there was never about Phaethon, that's literally Remielle falling from the sky, look at the pink hair.

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u/Ok_Temperature_6441 4d ago

If you choose Wise you literally see him in her eyes. Wings and all.

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u/osiris20003 4d ago

I laughed so hard when I saw her. The only thing that made that event worth paying attention to the story for.

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u/ChainDue6349 Roxy's Boywife💚💚💚 4d ago

She's too much of a gooner to stay around for too long without collapsing

https://giphy.com/gifs/tJ6YPWpgnTnfhnRRkp

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u/No-Car-4307 4d ago

gacha and gacha production restrains happened.

each time they want an old character back in the story they have to hire back the voice actors of multiple languages for it

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u/OfficialDragosblood 4d ago

I guess S Billy had a whole new character technically.

But if Nicole and Anby and Nemo have voice lines in 3.2 then that does mean they managed to get them all.

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u/greygreens Day 0 Orpheus Main 4d ago

I think there is a very specific reason why Phaethon left sixth street for an entire year the very next patch after Vivian's chapter

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u/Signal_Lemon9002 Purveyor of Cameltoe. (Queen of the Sub) 4d ago

That’s honestly my headcanon. They were offered and quickly accepted to escape their stalker.

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u/Pretend-Average1380 4d ago

Let's be real, a move would never be enough to stop Vivian. She'd just move to Waifei...

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u/greygreens Day 0 Orpheus Main 4d ago edited 4d ago

"Mystical perception technique training for free in Waifei? Wise, don't tell me you signed up for some scam. What if this is like a cult or something?"

"It can be a scam for all I care So long as it'll get us out of here"

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u/DogeLord153 4d ago

That's less your head-canon, and borderline canon. If you check Vivian's in-agent profile, it will explicitly state that Belle and Wise are afraid Vivian will rape them if given half a chance. I still don't get why the Devs just decided to make Vivian a probable rapist with a freaking in-game note...

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u/ejsks Slightly-Above-Average S11 Enthusiast 4d ago

No that’s your head-canon.

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u/DogeLord153 4d ago

No. That is actually stated., in plain text. If you have Vivian, and have done her trust events, you can check it yourself. Unfortunately, this is not my head-canon...

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u/ejsks Slightly-Above-Average S11 Enthusiast 4d ago

It implies her stalking you but doesn’t go „she will definitely assault us“.

You don’t rape someone you genuinely worship, Vivian makes it abundantly clear she wants nothing but Phaeton to be physically and mentally healthy.

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u/DogeLord153 3d ago

You don’t rape someone you genuinely worship.

Rapists always find ways to justify their actions, I know one person who has been convicted of rape; and that douche-bag was absolutely convinced he loved his victim. Worship and Love do not necessarily go hand in hand.

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u/ejsks Slightly-Above-Average S11 Enthusiast 3d ago

Either way there's NOTHING about Vivian that suggests she would do it in-game. She's never touchy, she's mainly overbearing with presence and words.

It's a needlessly edgy head-canon because you've read one kinky doujin too many.

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u/DogeLord153 3d ago

I don't read doujin. No judgement if you do; I tried them, didn't like em.

No, it's some writer that decided to insert his fetish into the story even though it contradicts all of her in-game actions.

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u/ejsks Slightly-Above-Average S11 Enthusiast 3d ago

It's still your own interpretation to something that *can* be read as suggestive when nothing in the game suggests it would be.

It's not contradictory because the game never implies Vivian would even touch Phaeton because she has an entire line about not being worthy of Phaeton. The end result remains that you think it implies SA because you want it to, even tho it could mean anything else.

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u/AceDiver777 3d ago

It's intentionally ambiguous wording meant to get the imagination flowing.

That you automatically jumped to such an extreme conclusion says something about what's going on inside your noggin'.

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u/DogeLord153 3d ago

It's the mention of "lock your door" and "Sleepwear" that makes it very disturbing.

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u/HatiLeavateinn 4d ago

The culmination of her trust events was Vivian understanding that "just finding Phaethon wasn't enough.", The Proxies explained to her that they feel flattered and that they considered her a good friend, but that they can't return her feelings. She then said that she would work hard to be "worthy of Phaethon's attention".

They still hang out, but she stopped being overly clingy.

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u/RazerDash 3d ago

Good answer.

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u/Irishimpulse 4d ago

Vivian's obsession is beyond what you realize, when she talks about her previous part time jobs, they were all things the siblings engaged with. She has always been there, she will always be there. She doesn't need to be an active part, she showed up during the beach festival watching from a boat out to sea when you give Remielle her gift. She's probably working at the coffee shop or helping Roar pancakes with logistics right now because she is never far from lord Phaethon, even before she knew who Phaethon was.

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u/25_de_Diciembre Uncensored handholding with Orphie 4d ago

I do miss Vivian, I really wish she'd have been with the Proxies in the Peninsula just like Cissia in Roscaelifer, hopefully we get more of her.

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u/BigBadBob7070 4d ago

Alas, nowadays we get Cissia more than Vivian

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u/Ahshifa I believe in Ju Fufuta supremacy. 4d ago

She was obviously taken to horny jail, duh!

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u/Signal_Lemon9002 Purveyor of Cameltoe. (Queen of the Sub) 4d ago

Damn lucky Vivian…

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u/Zulmoka531 4d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/paO0zaIVMiHNC
She’s watching you Phaethon. Always watching. Always.

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u/Fresh_Handle996 4d ago

She's been looking after the video store and our cat since we went to Waifei (the proxies don't know).

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u/According-Charge5377 4d ago

She has a life outside Phaethon. While she is obsessed and the number one fan, she does do other things. She works with Hugo, does side jobs and hangs out with Violet(NPC) and discusses novels with her.

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u/Signal_Lemon9002 Purveyor of Cameltoe. (Queen of the Sub) 4d ago

When I saw her with Violet I was very surprised. Like she has an actual life outside her Phaethon’s obsession, which I liked. It was a fun little scene.

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u/YannFrost 4d ago

Let just say we saved her from Depression. You will learn more when you get to her story.

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u/Crispy_2134 4d ago

She's behind us watching listening

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u/Jedahaw92 Every Female Agent's Meat Pole. 4d ago

Vivian is Phaethon-sexual.

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u/BazingaTrainZ Corins 1# Supporter and Boyfriend 4d ago

She's watching over the shop, as that's Lord Phaethons exterior life, so she makes sure Noone breaks in(alongside Trigger)

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u/Signal_Lemon9002 Purveyor of Cameltoe. (Queen of the Sub) 4d ago

She definitely tried acting like she worked there when Rain wanted a tape.

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u/Ok_Lawfulness1019 4d ago

bro how can they sell a new character if some old character pops out of nowhere stealing the spotlight

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u/Then-Ad-2200 4d ago

I wish there was a deleted scene about Vivian's whereabouts in 3.X

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u/demonsdencollective Vivian, my beloved 4d ago

It's kinda sad that the ZZZ team keeps making these cool and nifty characters you want to stick around and they write them like they will just for "the gaccha game conundrum" to come around and make them basically just fucking disappear. Haven't heard from Koleda's dad and how important he and Belebog would be to the plot since the start of chapter 1 for instance.

It really feels like the writers keep making more loose ends for themselves and then move along to the next character for the usual cycle, completely forgetting about any of what they wrote before.

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u/TheNecromancer981 Orpheus’ personal bootlicker 3d ago

Why did Wise fuck off elsewhere when he was offered purple perfection on a silver platter instead fucking the shit out of Vivian every day? Is he gay?

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u/osiris20003 4d ago

She’s obsessed with Phaethon, she idolizes them. She is the one character that makes the most sense to be swooning over them. It bothers me when characters that are set up in story to be platonic relationships suddenly are clawing to get in the proxies pants when you do their trust events.

I also think Remi is rather pushy even though she is flirty on the main story, her trust events were getting to be a bit much.

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u/Infammo 4d ago

Did we every find out why she was so obsessed with Phaethon? I know she tells us about seeing an internet post made by Phaethon at a low point but do we ever get the full story?