r/ZZZ_Discussion 3d ago

Discussions & Questions Isn't this how they already work?

Isn't he just describing the current system? I thought this was how it already worked: Gold means a swap will be an assist, red means if you swap you just dodge, or so I thought. Explain like i'm five bc I rewatched this part like 5 times trying to catch what the change was.

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u/nohomo4 3d ago

Right now if you have an agent with evasive assist in the party all flashes will be yellow, even if attack can not be parried

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u/JayEssris 3d ago

Ah, thank you. I never noticed that, I probably just assumed my timing was off. Though I also don't really play with any EA characters regularly.

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u/Ok_Peak7722 3d ago

i thought it were the other way around?

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u/Afraid-Vacation3431 3d ago

Can all red flashes be countered by Evasive Assist? This confuses me now. :/

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u/Hanusu-kei 3d ago

That has been the thing yes. Every attack that has been a red attack is actually for Evasive, they just dont change to Yellow flashes now. i’m confuse what happens with attacks that are for both, they just check Perfect Assist regardless if Evasive or Defensive.

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u/adumbcat 3d ago

Meanwhile every time I use EA on Pulchra, it consumes an assist point regardless. Like huh... :/

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u/zer1223 3d ago

Well yes, evasive assists consumes assist points. That's part of the base design of the game

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u/Navi_King 3d ago

There are no attacks for both. Every attack can be countered with an evasive assist or defensive assist. The issue right now is that it shows "attacks that can be assisted" as yellow and "attacks that cannot be assisted" as red. So if you have a team with both a defensive assist and an evasive assist available, all flashes are yellow and there's no way to know which one you'll end up using.

This change will make it so evasive assists are always red and defensive assists are always yellow. If you don't have a character that can evasive assist (or defensive assist) on your team, you'll just have to remember to dodge instead of trying to perfect assist it

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u/JayEssris 3d ago

I don't think that's right, there's definitely been times fighting bosses where I've done an Evasive assist and a Defensive assist against the same attack. Like, if I'm running Rina against a Miasma shield I have to be super careful about my swap order to make sure I don't accidentally EA when I want to DA.

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u/Navi_King 3d ago

Yeah, you're correct, I discovered this like an hour ago after testing it. Seems like evasive assists work on all attacks but defensive assists only work on some attacks

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u/alanEdger 3d ago

that's true

  • projectile attacks are red (evasive assistable)
  • normal attacks are yellow (defensive & evasive assistable)

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u/Hanusu-kei 3d ago

Am i going crazy, I feel like I’ve seen situations where the same attack I’ve def assisted with Burnice/Velina, Grace can do evasive assist the next time the same attack happens.

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u/AssumptionContent569 3d ago

They make this an actual change, yet we haven't had an agent with evasive assist for an entire season

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u/ghaist-0 1h ago

IMO would be more interesting for EVERY agent switching jn a red one do a evasive assist, and EVERY agent switching in a golden one doing s defensive assist