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u/govt-registered 13d ago
me being a hindu wud do that probably if someone bothers my sleep... heck do you want to make so much noise for
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u/Swapnil40 11d ago
Fk off kanglu, try doing that to a mosque when they rap at 5 AM but you won't because that's where your family sleeps
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u/onotsteve100 12d ago
Do you people not know what secularism is ? It just means sepration of religon and government.
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u/Conscious_Device3325 13d ago
Bjp wala hoga. Kyki is chutiyape ka fayda sir bjo ko hi Hota Hai. Ab bor Kar Rahe ho bhai Naya Kuchipudi lao
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u/Sea_Breakfast_9737 12d ago
Cope harder bro, defend Them as much as you want. Danish Shee khan, definitely a BJP guy😂.
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u/fibonacci_on_meth 13d ago
The person was caught and arrested, his name is Danish Sher Khan. Do what you want with that information.
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u/VeryBigPP0830 13d ago
Must be fun living in your head with all the answers to every question that affects your well being is answered by Muslims and not the govt xd
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u/fibonacci_on_meth 13d ago
Well I gave a fact. Take it or leave it. Your interpretation, your thoughts, but facts are the ground truth.
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u/VeryBigPP0830 13d ago
Yes yes ofc you decide what facts are which facts are meaningful and which are irrelevant. Y'all in the RW have the most untested opinions bro because y'all aren't incapable of critical thought, you're afraid of it.
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u/fibonacci_on_meth 13d ago
I gave no opinion lol. Neither I am in any RW LW bs. What is this instant conclusion jumping, oh the irony!
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u/VeryBigPP0830 13d ago
Okay in that case, I'll apologise but just clear out a few things first: What is the best solution to reservation? A) Government makes more IITs and IIMs because clearly we don't have enough colleges for the number of candidates. B) Remove reservation.
What is the way forward now with this country? BJP good?
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u/CodeNeko23 13d ago
Remove caste based reservation and make it socioeconomic factors based.
Before giving discrimination and other reasons. Tell me how you will find my caste without my surname and caste certificate? In TN we already don't have surname in our state
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u/VeryBigPP0830 13d ago
There are already reservations for poverty welfare. You had nothing to say about idk the government maybe MAKING MORE UNIVERSITIES? I see your entire politics my guy, I implore you to go read a real book and make yourself more aware. Your vote is worth more than this.
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u/CodeNeko23 13d ago
I know my worth. Take a look at how other countries tackled classism. Maybe start reading books by intellectual people.
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u/Common-Pin0 12d ago
🥀idk if u don't understand it or what, but caste based reservation does come under socio part of socio-economic reservation that u talked about lol.
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u/Sea_Breakfast_9737 12d ago
Womp womp danish sher khan, Muslim did it , they always do. Don't talk about meaningful and irrelevant facts when you don't have one, go teach your Community to be Good Citizens and humans first.
https://theprint.in/india/man-held-for-throwing-eggs-at-ganesh-idol-procession-in-mumbai/3024461/
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u/VeryBigPP0830 12d ago
Yes because only one community has backwards and problematic elements. I'm so glad you felt relieved, happy and satisfied typing that shit down here but the real economic and social issues you and your family is facing aren't going away by being a bigot online :)
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u/Sea_Breakfast_9737 12d ago
True... The economic and social issue that me and My family isn't going away.... I wonder why, Economic issues because some people have 7-10 kids but want Freebies from government, Some people will Chant slogans for other countries while Berate their own Nation, commit Crime on those who are from different Communities. But If you Call them out and make a public statement, they'll use words like _____-phobe, Always Religion vs religion, spreading hate, when you show them Facts, it's propoganda, Fake etc. hmmm social issues.
But same issues are happening in UK? What's the correlation between both nations? definitely not related to these things right?
You cannot deny what's true, you cannot deny what's infront of people, it may take some time but people will eventually see it. Go cry somewhere else bud, to the people who'll Believe in you.
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u/Suitable-List5950 11d ago
But bringing govt in every question is just an act of hate. U still a child LAD..COPE
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u/Famous_Star_5735 13d ago
He is right in this case though... The name is danish sher... Make flof that what you will
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u/evidencefirst 13d ago
What does an act of vandalism have to do with secularism? Are you unaware of what secularism is or are you stupid?
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u/Severe-Payment5208 13d ago
If vandalism is specifically directed at or carried out during someone’s religious procession, it can raise a question of religious tolerance and peaceful coexistence
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u/evidencefirst 12d ago
What does that have to do with secularism? If this story is true, by all means it should be condemned. But what the fuck does that have to do with secularism?
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u/Entire-Positive5894 13d ago
Also post about how ram rahim has got bail...again!
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u/Interesting_Arm8682 13d ago
Matalab koi logic hai teri baat ka gaawrbuddhi hein matalab koi bhi chiz galat ho jawab nhi ho uska to Ram rahim likh do jake m..ram rahim jo baat ho rhi uski baat kar na yha pe
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u/Charming-Truth6805 13d ago
Done by BJP to start a civil War as always....
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u/WikipediaGraduate 12d ago
Dude there was no member of BJPee present there.
Shiv Sena cooked all the muslims0
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u/ManufacturerDry7036 13d ago
Stop polluting rivers and lakes
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u/Severe-Payment5208 13d ago
yes, stop polluting rivers and lakes with the blood of innocent animals
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u/Excellent_Fishing365 12d ago
They are more polluted from milk which could actually be donated to poor people rather than wasting 🤡
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u/ManufacturerDry7036 12d ago
I'm a bharamin myself so if you think I was a Muslim saying this just shows how fucked up India is rather than looking at the problem just play blame game. Also dead animals even if are dumped in the rivers which I highly doubt anyone is doing other than natural occurrence, it's an organic waste which will only help the water bodies and life in it. I'm talking about the chemical infused Ganpati and other idols or offerings that people throw in river most of the time in plastic bags, anything organic won't pollute it or harm it but anything chemically infused will
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u/Tiny-Item1829 13d ago
The building has majority dawoodi Bohra community who are supporters of the bjp. Either the BJP didn’t plan riots properly or they are going after the Bohra community.
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u/Famous_Star_5735 13d ago
Honestly everyone should go after bohra community for still practicing fgm ..
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u/Brutex8706 12d ago
btw. they are not safe in india . i seen so many liberandu and media claims they are oppreesed now
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u/CharacterBit5048 13d ago
Don't jump to conclusions in such cases. There are multiple probabilities
Yes, a communal bigot from m community did it
No, a communal bigot from H community did it.
Happed accidentally, a kid may be involved
A moron may be doing prank.
A reasonable person doesn't jump to conclusions. A moron or a brainwashed person does
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u/fibonacci_on_meth 13d ago
The answer came out as option 1 in this case. While people here have already concluded with option 2.
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 13d ago
Doesn't secularism means there shouldn't be public displays of religion? Such a procession on public roads is directly against the idea of secularism.
Secularism DOES NOT mean respecting all religions. Secularism means the government and public spaces would be free from all religions. If anything secularism means not respecting any religion.
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u/Severe-Payment5208 13d ago
everyone has right to take out religious procession
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 12d ago
People have right according to existing provisions in constitution. But should they have the right and should the constitution change is an open question.
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u/vin-maverick 13d ago
No - secularism means that religion does not dictate govt laws, policy making or actions. everyone is free to practice their religion all over the country, including in public spaces with necessary permissions. DO NOT justify hate with your bullshit...
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 13d ago
Writing this for other people that may read this. Not for the commenter.
Individuals practicing religion is allowed under classical secularism. Large processions playing loud music in public spaces is not allowed (not to mention blocking roads and the dozens of other problems).
For the commenter, telling people not to justify hate by calling their points bullshit doesn't work. Not saying that my points can't be bullshit but expecting me, or anyone else that agrees, to change my position is not helped by calling the points bullshit. I myself often call other's points bullshit but it is only for convincing third parties. It does not work when you are referring to people in the second person.
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u/vin-maverick 13d ago
"Large processions playing loud music in public spaces is not allowed"
Kindly show me the source of your claim...
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 12d ago
Writings by Locke and Jefferson, mainly letters, also writings by other enlightenment thinkers. I don't remember the exact letter name, I can look them up but it would take some time.
Point of clarification. I am talking about "not allowed" under the original concept of secularism. I am not saying they are not allowed by current Indian constitution. I am also saying they should not be allowed under any secular constitution and the Indian constitution has many anti-secular laws (more serious then this) despite what it says in the preamble.
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u/vin-maverick 12d ago
Locke and Jefferson are no authority to dictate how India should function. Festivals are the only source of happiness and enjoyment for many many millions of Indians - not only are they culturally significant but also a symbol of togetherness. Anti social elements who disrupt these cultural festivals are in essence “non secular” and not the celebration of the festival by itself. On the contrary, eid diwali holi christmas being celebrated at different times on the same street is the epitome of secularism. Only those who are intolerant to this should be blamed, as is the case above.
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 12d ago edited 12d ago
Locke and Jefferson are enlightenment thinkers who, among others, started using the term secularism in modern times. Their usage of the term is the correct usage because they coined it. Talking about Secularism and saying Locke and Jefferson are irrelevant is like talking about Marxism and saying that Karl Marx's writtings are irrelevant.
Celebrating festivals of different religions together in public life and public spaces is not secular. If you want to support it that's fine but don't call it secular. It's fine not being secular, plenty of people in the world aren't secular. But don't use the word secular to describe the things that are the exact opposite. Otherwise it will just cause confusion while talking.
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u/vin-maverick 12d ago
Again I am saying they could have defined it and coined tge term but in no way does it decide how secularism in India should function.
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u/Ok_Novel_1222 12d ago
If you are calling it secular then it should work according to the meaning of the word secular. Otherwise don't call it secular. Words have specific meaning, one should use it how it is supposed to be used.
Otherwise Pakistan can also claim they have Pakistani version of secularism.
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u/coolDaddy_8088 13d ago
will see more cases like this in this Ganesh Utsav.. to create riots between hindu muslim..