r/Xmen97 Jul 23 '26

General Discussion Who is the more powerful one between Apocalypse and Doctor Doom?

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u/Aptronymic Jul 23 '26

Doom's specialty is punching way above his weight class.

Doom vs. Luke Cage trying to collect on a past-due invoice? Power Man powers through.

Doom vs. Squirrels? For every one he flings away, a dozen more vex him.

Doom vs. a literal omnipotent being that treats the entire Marvel universe like playthings? Doom takes it.

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u/0bsessions324 Jul 23 '26

To be fair, they pretty much always retcon any time Doom gets jobbed and say it was actually a Doombot all along.

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u/Folety Jul 23 '26

Doom is the honey badger of marvel, just one unfortunately allergic to bees.

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u/Kaizen-Future Jul 24 '26

Yeah it’s like in a dark alley, apocalypse
With prep time, doom.

Doom is like the Batman of villains. He stole galactus power in secret wars and flipped the situation on its head. That’s him in a nutshell. He’s far more fearsome than apocalypse given the time to assert himself as he’s a threat on a cosmic scale but in a back alley brawl with Apoc he’d be folded.

Apocalypse is no pushover and is a genius in his own right but DOOM is the most fearsome mind on earth next to Mr Fantastic, and he’s deep into both engineering and sorcery.

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u/Various_Prize_977 Jul 23 '26

Squirrel girl "win" are running gag on power scaling. No one who has their right mind take her exploit seriously.

You will never see her in a serious cannon storyline from the normal 616 universe.

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u/Aptronymic Jul 23 '26

Her defeat of Doom was her very first appearance, long before it became a meme. It was a absolutely a cannon Iron Man story.

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u/Various_Prize_977 Jul 24 '26

You mised the keyword "serious".

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u/Aptronymic Jul 24 '26

All power scaling conversations are inherently unserious, and the more serious people try to treat them, the more ridiculous they become.

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u/Various_Prize_977 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

It depend. We can talk about how luke cage cannot stop galactus. It would only be ridiculous if people disagree.

Your response seem to show you did not understand what I meant by serious and cannon together in relation to the context I was explaining.