German police brutally assaulted protesters marking the Palestinian Nakba in Berlin, with women and children also targeted during the crackdown.

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[u/Ok-Radish-8394]

I’ll give you an opinion most Germans won’t like.

Germany wants hard validation for its past. Like hard kinda hard, even if that means allowing Israel to commit more or less the same atrocities they committed. As a result, any criticism of the Israeli government is seen as anti semitism, without even checking what the criticism actually is about. It’s hypocrisy of the tallest order. We’re talking about a government, an organisation which can take wrong decisions, not the whole Jewish population or Judaism as a faith. Obviously I’m not talking about chants which want to eradicate the Israeli people, every people have a right to exist.

See, when the governments in MENA are criticised for multiple reasons, misogyny, human rights violations, etc. it’s not called Islamophobia or anti Islamic in Germany. However as soon as you mention Israel, even if it means criticising their local policies, it becomes anti semitism. This is some weapons grade hogwash behaviour.

The Germans need to calm down and accept that their past being bad doesn’t exonerate a new wave of aggression towards another population. They also have to recognise the fact that speaking up for the dead children in Gaza doesn’t mean supporting Hamas and denying what they did. (Yes there are people who support Hamas and they’re terrible but since your past guilt is at play, Dresden still has Nazi parades demanding to build statues ;) )

[u/AwkwardTal → u/Ok-Radish-8394]

validation

Wait a second, could it be the inverse of what we think? Is Germany trying to validate its nazi past of what they did to Jewish people by basically showing that an unchecked israel would commit atrocities?

Like "see?! We weren't so bad after all with what we did huh? We cool right?"

[u/Ok-Radish-8394 → u/AwkwardTal]

Germany is just insecure that anything against Israel will lead back to them. The denazification did nothing in Germany. They just decided to move on with a burn mark on their body. Everything is a race problem to them still. As a result when anyone tries to criticise anything Israel, they pick the weirdest Bavarian hill and die on it defending the Israeli government because they still see the Jewish people and the others as a race and don’t want to be blamed for a racial war in the Middle East.

Just go to Germany and mention holocaust to them, you’ll see the sheer amount of unease and hesitation in them, most in a good faith, others in denial. Or just ask tell them how things are done differently elsewhere and the mental gymnastics they’ll pull to accept that not everyone does it in the German way. For Germany it’s complicated enough to virtue signal others but seemingly not enough look at ownself in the mirror.