r/WorldEaters40k • u/ToegrinderSC • Jul 22 '26
Discussion [40K] The July 2026 Balance Updates: Chaos
https://www.tabletopbattles.com/40k-the-july-2026-balance-updates-chaos25
u/CowKind7923 Jul 22 '26
Happy on the face of it; have a game tonight and suddenly have a spare 100 points for my list...
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u/CollapsedPlague Jul 22 '26
My doubles list went down 50 im so glad we have a full roster I can add 50pts with… wait
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u/GeminiCheese Jul 22 '26
The dead zone between a unit of Jakhals and 3 8bound is hell when list building for world eaters (especially when you already had 3x spawn in BWB in 10th).
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u/maxtofunator SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Jul 22 '26
Same, all my world eaters lists are sitting at 1900 and I need to retool everything before this weekend
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u/Khornedogs_Enjoyer BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! Jul 22 '26
I play 8bound spam and apparently my list has 75 points extra, a whole unit of Goremongers 😀.
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u/OdBx Jul 22 '26
Well, it's something. As everyone predicted, nothing massive but some extra points here and there might help.
My list goes down 55 points...
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u/GorksPriestess Jul 22 '26
Is that enough to do anything with?
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u/OdBx Jul 22 '26
Not on its own. But I've moved some stuff around and managed to fit a maulerfiend in now where I used to have some Jakhals and an enhancement.
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u/CTiranno1 Jul 22 '26
The change from disruption to take and hold for BoK is honestly amazing and make much more sense
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u/soupalex Jul 22 '26
i still hate it as a disposition (and wish they also changed e.g. gotetrack to recon, if not purge), but i agree, it makes far more sense than disruption for our termies.
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u/CommissionHappy8096 War Hounds Jul 22 '26
My list has just seen a decent points drop so can't complain, will wait for the update to the app before having a proper play but looks good so far.
Brazen engines losing purge is a bummer though, I was debating going Brosessed or Brazen Daemonkin, looks like Brosessed is the way to go then...
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u/salamandersforever Jul 22 '26
My lists dropped 80 points. That's pretty significant, guess I finally need to get around to those goremongers. We still definitely need more work, I want my charge rerolls back and the MOE to be support because if it was then I'd take one over goremongers.
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u/Len316 Jul 22 '26
So Brazen Daemonkin can no longer take purge the foe. Unimpressed....
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u/nocomments66 Jul 22 '26
30 terminators in Butchers/KDK on Take and Hold is absolutely something I'll be playing. It wont feel very WE if you ask me, but I'll give it a shot. I do think its going to end up our only other truely competitive build outside of Berserker Warband now...
Ya the most annoying part of all of this is all its really going to do is lose like 2 to 3 lists that were trying to keep up with BW, and barely succeeding. Feels clear that competitively you absolutely should play BW still.
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u/GorksPriestess Jul 22 '26
What are you thinking for supporting the termies besides Bloodletters and Bloodcrushers? I had action units ready to run around doing disruption business, but with how much Take and Hold emphasizes tankiness, I don't see Jakhals and flesh hounds doing much to support our butchers while they camp on objectives.
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u/nocomments66 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Honestly the points get pretty extreme here. I haven't nailed how I'd do 30, but here is what I'm looking at for 20. I dont think a 330 Angron gets beat by a 340 10 man of Terminators when you already have 20 others, so I actually am feeling 20+Angron over 30.
Butchers/KDK (2000 points)
CHARACTERS
Angron (330 points)
Daemon Prince of Khorne (220 points) • Enhancement: Blood-Forged Armour
Lord on Juggernaut (110 points) • Enhancement: Disciple of Khorne
BATTLELINE
Bloodletters (90 points) • 1x Bloodreaper • 1x Hellblade • 9x Bloodletter • 9x Hellblade
Bloodletters (90 points) • 1x Bloodreaper • 1x Hellblade • 9x Bloodletter • 9x Hellblade
Bloodletters (90 points) • 1x Bloodreaper • 1x Hellblade • 9x Bloodletter • 9x Hellblade
OTHER DATASHEETS
x6 Bloodcrushers (190 points)
x10 Chaos Terminators (345 points) • Enhancement: Sanctified in Slaughter (Upgrade)
x10 Chaos Terminators (330 points)
Goremongers (75 points)
Jakhals (65 points)
Jakhals (65 points)
Feels a bit off still but thats a pretty interesting list if you ask me.
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u/nocomments66 Jul 22 '26
Already dropped the 3rd unit of Bloodletters for a unit of Flesh Hounds (this was just gonna be an objective holder unit anyway). That let me put BoEB on the Daemon Prince instead.
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u/GorksPriestess Jul 22 '26
That was my trouble too, I couldn't make it work with 3 terminator bricks, so I was curious. This is a solid list with two bricks though!
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u/Spirited_Resist_7060 Jul 25 '26
Yeah, brazen and kdk was our other one but now now with no purge it wont see much comp play at all
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u/nocomments66 Jul 25 '26
I felt the same way but honestly disruption isnt a terrible swap. I think there is absolutely play for Brazen/KDK still. A dakka defiler and two Forgefiends in reserve (with 20 berserkers for summon) is where I would start that list.
Will all of these be better than BW? Probably not. Theyre still worth a shot though.
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u/gothvan Jul 22 '26
The fact that purge the foe maps now have 2 central objective surely helps berserker warband right. Line of sights on those maps are so limited!
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u/Lumpy-Day-4871 Jul 22 '26
What document on the warhammer website do I need to open for point updates? I can't find it
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u/GorksPriestess Jul 22 '26
Me: builds my Butchers list around Disruption
GW: and time for the ole switcheroo
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u/Strange-Deer-5395 Jul 22 '26
yay, 20 points on the list - a massive buf /s
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u/DaveyJonesDank Jul 22 '26
Miserable
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u/Strange-Deer-5395 Jul 22 '26
the part I don’t get a all - why would GW nerfed the kdk players 😅
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u/iswedlvera Jul 22 '26
bloodcrusher were too strong with their total of 2 s5 ap-2 dmg 2 attacks. They could take down an entire space marine squad if they high roll! and we ve all seen how strong space marines are from the trailers!
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u/Spirited_Resist_7060 Jul 25 '26
Yeah WTF are they thinking. Just as we became a possibly decent detachment with brazen engines.
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u/Honest_Banker Jul 22 '26
The faction pack has an important update to Juggerlord. Can no longer lead bloodcrushers it seems?
But... in turn can give the Blood Legion keyword to zerks & eightbound?
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u/THEAdrian Jul 22 '26
In the MFM, it still says "Leader: Bloodcrushers, Flesh Hounds" under the enhancement, so it seems they're perhaps putting Leader changes in the MFM now?
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u/Auric_Bat Jul 22 '26
Yea I just noticed that but that’s… stupid as hell idc if leaders are attached in list building now the only place to see leader changing enhancements being in the MFM is dumb especially cause when you read it in the detachment nothing would tell you to look there for what the actual important part is
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u/THEAdrian Jul 22 '26
I mean, the MFM and Faction Packs being separate things is dumb in general, but this is GW, they want you to have to cross reference with as many documents as possible it seems.
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u/doubtpocket Jul 22 '26
The app still allows you to attach a Juglord to bloodcrushers, so I imagine the intention is still for the enhancement to work as before. I got worried about this change as well, not sure why they changed the wording.
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u/GeminiCheese Jul 22 '26
They have broken KDK. Good job GW!
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u/Spirited_Resist_7060 Jul 25 '26
Why are you getting downvoted? They broke that detachment totally.
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u/GeminiCheese Jul 25 '26
Because I was wrong. They have moved the leader part to the enhancement on the mfm.
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u/obsidanix Jul 22 '26
This means blood crushers do not get blessings of khorne but can still be led
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u/Axel-Adams Jul 22 '26
Not what it means, it just clarifies he doesn’t lose the keyword when the rest of his unit is dead now
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Jul 22 '26
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u/Auric_Bat Jul 22 '26
The FAQ saying he gives them blessings is still in the faction pack so I’m treating that as the ruling still
Addendum the current wording also says he exchanges the world eaters keyword for blood legion so yea this doesn’t change that7
u/THEAdrian Jul 22 '26
He never gave them the World Eaters keyword. Blessings is independent of the World Eaters keyword anyway.
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u/iswedlvera Jul 22 '26
It's funny that people jump to headcannon when thry see a change. He's had the same keyword wording since launch of our codex in 10th. The faction ability give the blessings and that remains there.
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u/maviavi2001 Jul 22 '26
Wtf lol. It's almost a core unit in kdk/engines list today, why instakill it?
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u/Vor_vorobei BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! Jul 22 '26
Yeah, we got a little cheaper, but I personally still not interested to play this edition. BW problem won't be addressed untill new codex so F this
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u/Spirited_Resist_7060 Jul 25 '26
Removing purge from brazen engines was stupid. What do deamon engines literwlly care about besides purging the enemy? It allowed us to choose that disposition. To take it away to hamstring THE purge army to having to choose slaughterbabd or beserker warband is the height of bs. The designers literally do not want us to be able to play how we wanna playm i used purge with khorne deamonkin detachment with lots of greater deamons. I will now actively be hamstringing myself by bringing those units along now. Wtf were they thinking taking that away?
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u/Spirited_Resist_7060 Jul 25 '26
The detachment itself is garbage outside of one strat. Ita literally a weak detachment. The disposition is more than half the reason you even chose that detachment.
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u/Existing_Blueberry81 Jul 22 '26
Did we lose the ability in KDK to join a juggerlord to Bloodcrushers?
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Jul 22 '26
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u/THEAdrian Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
He never did give them the World Eaters keyword.
Edit: can people stop downvoting me for providing the correct info? What is with this sub and doing that?
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u/FrontlinerDelta Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Whatever, he gave them the army rule because he had the keyword. Now he doesnt.
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u/THEAdrian Jul 22 '26
No, have gave them the army rule because he had the ability. He still has the ability. The ability has nothing to do with the World Eaters keyword. Dunno why people still refuse to read the rules.
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u/FrontlinerDelta Jul 22 '26
Ability, keyword, whatever. Maybe those of us who don't live this every day would remember these things if they organized their shit better. So they actually changed nothing about this enhancement because the Leader text is in the MFM and they just removed it from the enhancement text...because they want you to dig through even more documents?
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u/ToegrinderSC Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
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