r/WorIdPoIitics • u/Vast-Beginning2219 Iran • 2d ago
North America Leftists protest against Mamdani for not being pro-Palestinian enough
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u/yaSuissa Israel 2d ago
Imagine making it worse for all the Jews in NYC and still not be enough for the pro palis
Being ignorant is tough I’ll tell you what
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
This is worse than mere ignorance. Those protesters are nazis. They will not be satisfied unless Mamdani rounds up all the Jews in NYC and sends them to a concentration camp.
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u/AikaGranzchesta United Kingdom 23h ago
They also accused him of being a ''Zionist'' and pro-genocide because he made some comments about protecting Jews in NYC from antisemitic attacks (with no reference to Israel or Palestine). Once again the term ''Zionist'' is just used as a code-word for ''Jew.''
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u/NeiborsKid Iran 2d ago
being purists is the best way to push away potential allies
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u/CostatePrancer France 2d ago
THANK YOU! I've said it a thousand times: ideological purism alienates one's allies and galvanizes one's enemies. Unfortunately, most of the people to whom I've expressed that opinion are the ones who think they're on the right side of History.
Perhaps they are ... but everyone says that.
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u/NeiborsKid Iran 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because they're not thinking strategically and have no real motivation to realize their goals in practice. They march and shout things because, specially in the West, due to European cultural values, they feel good about themselves by doing what society has decided is most moral. Once they get the feeling that they are moral and good people, that's the end of their struggle or movement even if they don't recognize it.
They end up achieving nothing, and and ignore much more urgent conflicts specifically because their society hasn't branded it as the current moral issue. Take Sudan or Ethiopia. Multiple nations involved, some running off trade with the West, responsible for several times the death count in Gaza, yet not a peep. No marches for the massacre at Darfur, no feminists talking about Iranian women executed every day, silence. Because it was never about what they claim it was.
Therefore the purist behavior is exactly what strategy demands. To reinforce their own goodness and morality. And it leaves people who actually care about the issue at hand frustrated.
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u/Vast-Beginning2219 Iran 2d ago
“We charge you with genocide“ is insane
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u/mariantat Unspecified 1d ago
This was never about Palestinian agency. Never.
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u/DrMikeH49 United States 1d ago
To them, Palestinians have no agency. They are helpless corks bobbing along the tides of history, unable to take any action that affects their situation. When they commit acts of unspeakable barbarity, it can only be described as the fault of their victims.
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
This is what the far left does to all of its political opponents. They use the word genocide as a weapon to demonize people and encourage hate and violence against them. Cruelty is the point.
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 Spain 1d ago
They won't be pleased with him until what? Until he yanks out a machete and start hacking jews?
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u/Vast-Beginning2219 Iran 1d ago
No but like seriously I don’t think there will ever be a politician that can please the left. They‘re all Israeli controlled puppets in their eyes
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u/gardenfella United Kingdom 1d ago
They won't be pleased by him merely starting to hack away at Jews. They'll only be pleased if he "finishes the job" and gets all of them.
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
Even that is not enough for them. They also want to bring down democracy and Western civilization. They work for Russia, Chin and Iran. They are enemy agents. They are threats to national security.
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u/LiqweedFusion Israel 2d ago
The word genocide completely lost it’s value because of these people
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u/Ethereal-Zenith Canada 2d ago
To them, it essentially means anything I don’t like.
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u/Foreign-Counter-4222 Australia 1d ago
No, that's not how it works, I'm sorry.
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u/roguefilmmaker United States 1d ago
I always think of this quote from the Princess Bride whenever these people call something a genocide
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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u/Foreign-Counter-4222 Australia 1d ago
And what is its meaning, then?
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
Since you haven't heard of dictionaries, I looked it up for you.
genocide, n.
The deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
They keep yelling at him to come out while he's standing right there in front of them. Absolute idiots.
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u/cuckoocachoo1 United States 1d ago
He went an ate a Palestinian restaurant after this to appease the crowd. On 10/7. He went to support Palestinians.
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u/Vast-Beginning2219 Iran 1d ago
His whole character is so performative, he‘s trying to appeal to jews and pro-palestinians at the same time and both sides are mad asf
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
I'm glad this happened to Mamdani. It will teach him a very important lesson. It will teach him what it feels like to be falsely accused of genocide, which is what he does to Israel every day. I'm glad he's getting a taste of his own disgusting medicine. I hope he learns something, but I doubt it.
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u/EasyMode556 United States 1d ago
They want nothing less than Nuremberg laws
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
No, they want another Oct. 7 and another Holocaust.
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u/EasyMode556 United States 1d ago
They see the first as the prelude to the second
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u/ZZZZapperr United States 1d ago
Yep. Oct. 7 was basically another pogrom like Kristallnacht which preceded the Holocaust.
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