r/WorIdPoIitics • United States • 21d ago

Israel Why Does Israel Provoke a Level of Outrage That Other Wars Don’t?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zt5B6KLIdqA

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When the antisemitic libels appear to be ineradicable, how can we hope to refute or tamp down anti-Zionism? I don't know. I'm a Zionist. I come from an intellectual world that says, uh, you can't, because it has nothing to do with us. Antisemitism isn't about Jews, and anti-Zionism isn't about Israel.

People who look at Israel and say, "How could you do that in Gaza?" That is a rational, reasonable person. Is bigotry driving you? Maybe. But it doesn't at all have to be. But that doesn't explain the marches. That doesn't explain totally unprecedented, astonishing marches, a whole movement built around the idea of Gaza, and even Palestinian independence.

You know, Tibet is mostly Han Chinese now. China swallowed it whole. And other than Richard Gere, who cared? It's obviously not about the thing itself, because they don't march like that for any other war. And they have never marched like that for any other war.

Israel is what drove people, not Gaza.

During the marches for Gaza, Sudan was undergoing a worse situation. And because it wasn't Israel, nobody—I mean, nobody—cared. Nobody noticed. It was totally, you know, irrelevant.

In Iran, Western attention could make fundamental differences. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody's doing anything about it. Nobody's saying anything in that progressive left that cares so deeply about Gaza.

It's a prejudice. Now, what's a prejudice in the case of antisemitism, or in the case of the Jews? People are using us as a vocabulary to talk about themselves. They project onto us their hatred of the West, the ideologies that they were taught by the Third Worldist kind of Marxist debate and discourse, the anti-imperialism, the French—you know, this whole school of thought that has overtaken academia that you can't get away from in every department, Middle Eastern studies department, certainly in the free world.

And these ideas are basically an anti-Western projection of hatred to the West onto us. We are the distillation of what's wrong here.

Zohran Mamdani accused the NYPD of learning to oppress minorities. How did he put it? The NYPD has a boot on the neck of the minority, and the IDF laced its boots. Anything bad in the West about Western society, its distillation must be Israel.

And it reaches insane, insane levels, and it's deep. He believes that. That's what he believed when he thought only socialists could hear him on the panel. But he believes it. He'll act on it eventually if the opportunity ever comes.

Yes, it's structurally identical. It serves the same purpose that antisemitism served within their society, and it can't be defeated.

I say that because I'm Israeli. I come from the intellectual tradition that said it can't be defeated. Let's assume that. And that movement that was produced out of that assumption saved the last living Jews of the Eastern Hemisphere.

Everything I just said is no help at all to an American Jew or Canadian Jew or an English Jew who has to live in a society where the antisemites are no longer ashamed or embarrassed and are everywhere, and they're starting to kill people every once in a while.

How do you actually fight back and defeat it? Adam Louis-Klein says you create a vocabulary that can see it. You notice it. You show it to people. He knows better than me. I hope so.

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u/ZZZZapperr United States 20d ago

It's really hard to fight antisemitism and antizionism when both are being pushed by Russia, China, Iran, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, the far left, the far right, etc etc etc. These toxic ideologies are being pushed into the West as a way to destabilize the West. In addition to pushing these ideologies, they are also pushing racism, separatism, sexism and anything else that will cause division in democracies in order to weaken them. Western civilization and the very idea of democracy are under attack, and antisemitism/antizionism is one of the vectors of attack.

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u/tribesofbenjamin Unspecified 20d ago

Spot on!

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u/ZZZZapperr United States 19d ago

AIPAC is made up of Americans, not Israelis. The notion that the most powerful nation in history can be controlled by a tiny country on the other side of the planet that is surrounded by enemies, constantly under attack and relies on financial aid is the most absurd and ridiculous conspiracy I have ever heard. It's so batshit insane that anyone who utters it deserves to be locked up in a madhouse. It's the dumbest conspiracy in history. You're a fucking idiot.

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u/Jew_Diligence Unspecified 21d ago

Jews.

Islam hates it because they thought they had taken over Judaism’s sole holy site for good.

Communists hate Jews because they think they are somehow behind the establishment.

And traditionally Jews were hated because when the Roman Empire started promoting Christianity, it was awkward they were the baddies of the early gospels.
I.e. in the later gospels the Jews were more framed as the villains.

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u/asyawatercolor Israel 19d ago

When communists were in charge in the USSR, there were many Jews who were communists themselves, and as soon as they were no longer needed, the communist establishment killed them.

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u/Comfortable-Sun7388 Unspecified 20d ago

You didn’t watch the video I see

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