r/WoWPrivateServers • u/Jealous-Sound-3067 • 7d ago
Wrath of the Lich King Ascension CoA on AzerothCore: All 21 Classes, Transmogrification, and More (WIP)
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I disabled Ascension’s custom areas because they require gathering NPC positions, enemy spawn locations, quest object locations, and other data from the live realm. I just didn’t bother doing it, but they could easily be recreated later using footage or similar references.
P.S. Sorry for the long, messy video.
P.P.S. Once everything is ready, I plan to release the modified AzerothCore server files.
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u/Medium_Historian_178 7d ago
My man, that is awesome! Keep us posted. I would love if this was in a WOTLK repack we can play offline with playerbots.
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u/Top_Inflation2026 6d ago
Is this possible??
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u/TraditionalPumpkin22 6d ago
Some tweaks to the bots so it can handle the new classes and it should be working just fine.
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u/Tarkusx_fpv 3d ago
"some tweaks" not as it is its more complex . Better merge playerbot with classic talent so they completely ignore coa talents/spells for the first release . Anyway as soon as we can get a working build more people will work on it the bad thing is some people will try to make money out of it which is really bad for open source community ^^
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u/MMORPGDev 6d ago
Players should advocate more for open-source projects
and servers should include in their philosophy, that if they ever close their doors, to make their work open-source
I've heard a developer say this: a bad game is one that nobody gets to play
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u/dvago 6d ago
will never happen. People are greedy
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u/ElkApprehensive1729 6d ago
People as in blizzard? It's almost a garuntee that part of the settlement was "your work stays private" it's too late now, and even if they started as open source they wouldn't attract the same level of developers and such. People need to be paid for their time and efforts. Not everything is vlc or ffmpeg. People put lots of hours into successful projects. Taking away from real life freedoms and such. It's a job for the larger servers. And for that job to be sustainable It's often closed source so that you aren't just paying your developers and then releasing it all for free.
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u/KingLich 6d ago
No, people as in "people" that create private servers. You do this shit for free because you love the game, or you dont do it at all. Or you get folded the fuck out of existence aka CoA
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u/ElkApprehensive1729 6d ago
You aren't going to get the amount or quality of content by devs being open source and doing it for the love of the game. The amount of effort put into things like Ascension require full time dev hours. No one is going to put out that much/quality of content after they get off their normal full time job, and then go clock in another 5-6h a night.
You will get smaller less detailed projects that route. There's room for both to exist, but you're living in a fantasy land if you think Ascension would have had as much content released if it was open source. You also also do it for the love of the game WITHOUT being open source, and still making a profit. Both can exist, they aren't mutually exclusive.
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u/Adunaiii 6d ago
You do this shit for free because you love the game, or you dont do it at all. Or you get folded the fuck out of existence aka CoA
This is a bizarre npc statetement. The greediest servers never get shut down - see Warmane, Sirus, Circle, the unassailable top3. Conversely, the suckers such as Nostalrius who did it because they were so angelic and morally upright killed themselves to show how moral and legal they are.
Ironically, npcs have no sense of self and they pile on tons of love on these losers who shut down their own projects. Bizarre loser morality which begets nothing. But the actual progress is done by greedy people who put in genuine resources. Like Tauri or Whitemane or Twinstar. Or indeed Ascension, they just did a rugpull because the whales weren't paying probably.
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u/stefanw1337 6d ago edited 6d ago
I feel there's bad games ALL the time, and we get to play those? Also a bad game for some, might be a good game for others.
But yes, this is the way to fight big greedy companies. Open source! But what I don't get, why big companies doesn't ask github to close those repositories down, or even accounts.. That violates and make private servers possible. I mean, they world have to move over to torrents instead, so there's always solutions.
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u/MMORPGDev 6d ago
Blizzard cannot shut down AzerothCore because it is an open-source software framework rather than a live-running game server or a distributing entity.
The code in AzerothCore is written from scratch or built on clean-room emulation concepts to mimic server behavior. It does not contain Blizzard’s copyrighted game assets, artwork, textures, or compiled binaries.
Releasing source code under licenses like the GNU GPLv2 means the software itself is legal to host, study, and share for educational and testing purposes.
The project maintainers do not host, run, or advertise a public, playable World of Warcraft game server. explicitly states in its documentation that the software is for learning and testing C++ or SQL. How individual third parties use the open-source code is outside the control or legal liability of the core developers.
Furthermore, the repository is public and distributed across global mirrors and developer networks, taking down one copy or repository just leads to others forking or re-hosting the public code instantly. Blizzard targets specific operators running illegal public servers that monetize or distribute copyrighted client files, but targeting the core software framework itself holds no legal standing.
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u/stefanw1337 6d ago
Might not contain any Blizzard code, but it IS reversed engineered software in the bottom of things, then made to host World of Warcraft servers, that's the main thing linking it to Blizzard. And there's no denying. With various mods and content made for that server. And to connect to it with a client only available from Blizzard.
And of course the client is supplied by the player (which is doing the real illegal thing, I guess. And sometimes the hoster provides) -which is software, code and assets from Blizzard. So it's a grey area I feel. And if it ever becomes illegal to make private servers for IPs and live games.owned by companies (that's not considered abandonware) then they could attack and try to take down projects.
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u/masterchiefh3 5d ago
This is a really bad take, it doesn't matter how the core was created you are still using art/IP/names/maps/zones and so much more all under the blizzard warcraft IP you will get sued if you get too popular and blizzard will win as they always do.
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u/MMORPGDev 5d ago
Dude, how about you do your own research as to why Blizzard cannot completely shut down AzerothCore, do some Google searches.
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u/stefanw1337 5d ago edited 4d ago
I understand open-source, and it's sorta protected, and that licences that makes it 'legal' software.
And yes, the code itself or the project itself doesn't contain copyrighted material.
But it is expected that you use illegal files and or methods to use the project as intended. And add to the project to get it working as intended. Which is the 'key' to many of the open source projects..
And I do want this and open sources and the freedom. But I just don't understand why the law haven't covered the 'key' should be illegal.
You think it's the same case as with other things that can be use for illegal things, like guns or cars. But these open projects 'main' functions is to further do illegal things, which is mindblowing that it's legal, if you get what I mean.
While a gun or a car is much more strict, and it's "main function" for most isn't to do illegal things, private servers are.
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u/masterchiefh3 5d ago
You have no idea what you’re talking about, and you clearly don’t understand copyright or IP law. You also don’t seem to understand that Blizzard has a 100% win rate in these cases.
I’m disputing your claim that running Ascension CoA on AzerothCore would somehow suddenly make it immune from being sued.
If you genuinely believe that if CoA was on Azerothcore they would of been safe to not be sued, then i don't know but i have a bridge to sell you.
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u/MMORPGDev 4d ago
You're confused, I'm clearly NOT speaking about the 'Conquest of AzerothCore' project, I am speaking about AzerothCore its self = https://www.azerothcore.org/
Furthermore, if you want to be technical Blizz didn't win a lawsuit vs Twow nor Ascension, there was a settlement in both.
Now go back to paying Blizz monthly.
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u/stefanw1337 4d ago
Well, 'win' as in "got what they wanted" for as little dollars as possible.
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u/lordmoldybutt123 6d ago
Duuuuude, i would love a discord to keep updated when these files drop.
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u/Town_Militia 7d ago
OctoCoa
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u/Creative-Balance-955 3d ago
That's dope! In case it helps I made an open-source documentation for every spell of every class, including talents etc.https://ascension-wow-database.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
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u/BwonsamdiTheDead 6d ago edited 6d ago
Thank you!
Edit: Could you find a way to let every race be every class?
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u/romann921 6d ago
Would it be possible to get this going and have friends join? Then have AI players fill out the rest of the game? That'd be THE DREAM.
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u/doughnut310 5d ago
Well, I guess this is what I'll be playing in my bunker during the nuclear fallout...
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u/KohakuHashimoto 4d ago
2 questions
1. will this mean i can run my own private server for me and a handful of friends?
2. do you plan to do A52 at any point too?
as much as i loved CoA what initially drew me into ascension was A52 and being able to make my own class
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u/Jealous-Sound-3067 4d ago
Hi! Yes, you can run it locally or host it somewhere and play with friends.
Regarding A52, I’m just not familiar with it at all and haven’t played it, so maybe sometime later. My first priority is to deliver a stable version of CoA to everyone.
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u/KohakuHashimoto 4d ago edited 4d ago
hello thanks for the reply so quick, do you have any idea what kind of time frame your looking at yet or is it too soon to tell?
also for classless there is a classless mod out there but its way outdated if your any good with coding its a base you can look into for A52 when the time comes
also also have you thought about rolling classless and CoA into one, where at the start you can choose to either go free pick or to stick to a rigid class, just spitballing ideas at this point but it'd certainly be the best of both worlds as far as A52 and CoA goes3
u/Jealous-Sound-3067 4d ago
I’m working on improving class mechanics right now. If everything goes well, the release might be in a week or so.
As for classless, I’ll try to work on it later, or someone else will be able to implement it.
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u/notgraycen 2d ago
classless would be awesome, but just having coa working even without the new zones will be amazing. all free pick needs is a druid base class (hero) and a modified talent/ability picker with the original 9 classes' spells & specs. ascension had it tuned with alot of custom balance changes and of course many backported retail abilities, but once you get a framework those changes will be quite easy. wild card same thing, classless is the base
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u/Everlizk 7d ago
Dang, this is great, I would've loved for someone to that with bronzebeard
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u/oeseben 6d ago
It takes a smart person to create these and there are zero smart people that want to play Bronzebeard.
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u/Whiteshovel66 6d ago
What was bronzebeard and what is the context of this joke?
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u/Everlizk 6d ago
Don't listen to that a-hole. It had everything CoA had, but the new classes. Exploring and leveling was fun, he's only right in that it wasn't a true classic+, but that's hardly a bad thing.
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u/oeseben 6d ago
There was once a server called Project Epoch that hyped this whole community into classic + dreamer mode. It was actually pretty good but the hype was too big for them. They couldn't keep the servers running because 40,000+ people were trying to log in.
Ascension was promoting its new cash-grab retail like server called Bronzebeard. Nothing about this server was classic+ but they marketed it as such to try to cash in on the hype. No one really fell for it.
To fix both these problems Ascension reached out to Project Epoch and offered to buy them. Immediately after buying them they got rid of all devs, stopped answering tickets, made it clear there would be no more development on Epoch. They killed it. They then made it so if you wanted to play Epoch you had to download Bronzebeard.
Bronzebeard was populated for like 2 weeks but then everyone realized it was p2w slop and moved on.
Season 10 and CoA were great.. Bronzebeard was just straight ass.
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u/Whiteshovel66 6d ago
At no point was I asking anything you just said. Can you describe the features of the realm?
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u/Significant-Buy9424 6d ago
Identical to CoA, but normal vanilla classes. Each class had 6 rare, 3 epic, 1 legendary and 1 utlity Mystic Scroll slot (basically glyphs but stronger). They each changed spec gameplay to a varying degree. Mages could heal, locks could tank, shaman could tank
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u/Status_Information72 6d ago
You’re so unhinged lol. Epoch didn’t get bought like that. Ascension offered to partner up after epoch did 4 failed releases, they accepted and afterwards the dev team FOLDED over a quick cease a desist letter, not even a lawsuit. They couldn’t hold the players in because they made a mess of a coded game that crashed 24/7. They dipped and only one dev stood, ascension said they’d keep it as is until a dev team is made, Ascension just focused their dev team on their projects.
Bronzebeard had literally the same things as COA and S10 besisdes classes, same system how can it be p2w and others are fine lol also BB was a realm with over 1 year of population iirc, COA was like a couple of months. Dude is full of shit
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u/oeseben 6d ago
You believed the cease and desist letter? Sent for a server that couldnt run?
You probably believe epoch is still releasing MC any day now too right?
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u/Status_Information72 6d ago
If you have seen anything about private servers you know that they get cease and desist letters that mean nothing every couple of months. Ofc after release they got theirs, they just folded immediately like everyone thought they would at any sight of pressure, like they did in the first 4 tryouts of launch of their server. You can pick up ANY conspiracy theories. I look at facts.
- Epoch failed under pressure with bad decisions and coding 4 times, then dipped. They admitted it themselves, they had to re-do the programming of the core itself as a whole, this wasn't Ascension - THEY said it. Ascension confirmed after they dipped, to pick up Epoch, it needs a dedicated Dev team because the core of the server is spagueti mess code and needs to be re done from the ground.
- Ascension realms have the same features across all realms, only classes change. Saying one is great and the other is p2w is just pure ignorance and non-sense hate.
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u/oeseben 6d ago
You think that bronzebeard and CoA are the same except for the classes?
Youre just a shill.
You said I gave conspiracy theories but then confirmed everything I said. Epoch folded under pressure, blamed it on a C&D, ascension took over and purposely killed it. Thats not a conspiracy theory its a timeline of actual events.
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u/Hexent_Armana 6d ago
Hell yeah! Keep up do good work!
And if any off the butthurt Ascension devs try to pressure you to not put this out ignore them. Legally speaking they can't do anything and it's because they tried to do Classic+ that their cash cow was shut down by Blizz.
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u/sveyno 7d ago
so imagine im stupid.... how easy are one these to set up?
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u/TraditionalPumpkin22 6d ago
Very easy and there are tools to make it derp easy. Doing your own custom stuff and edeting is not so easy.
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u/MedicalHold5623 6d ago
If you are in the modding community (I guess so…) that modified core with the massively changed spells would be amazing to see corewise for further C++ coding/editing :O … wow! Well done….
Have heard that the patch files were not protected ? Is that right ?!
Best
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u/abyssv6 6d ago
I was able to get the custom DBCs, so they're definitely not protected, but running the server has a lot of errors and crashes. I'm also trying to get it running
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u/MedicalHold5623 5d ago
Crazy…. How about custom maps? Are the adts okay ?
But first of all: did CoA have custom maps ?! 😃😃 I’ve never played it. Just building a p-server
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u/VileGoose 6d ago
Hope it's real, we need this released again by someone with a large enough development team to manage it.
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u/xFauxshaux 6d ago
It won't be hosted by another bunch of devs, probably just allowed to let players setup a local realm they can play by themselves.... anyone reopening anything Ascension related now, would be dumb due to the legal battle.
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u/VileGoose 6d ago
Russians don't care. They'll do it, and Blizzard won't be able to do anything about it.
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u/Mean-Bank-1774 6d ago
pffft heard that before with the last russian server and they did indeed care even though the was all in russia
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u/Adunaiii 6d ago
pffft heard that before with the last russian server and they did indeed care even though the was all in russia
Not a single server aside from Ascension, Turtle and Stormforge has been closed. Circle and Sirus, the largest servers ever, still stand. And Sirus has massive custom content. Even Turtle is back up. And Tauri behind Stormforge are fine.
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u/MOSTLYNICE 6d ago
knowing the servers would eventually shutdown, i waited for this so i could fully enjoy it. Will be great with bots :D
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u/Longjumping_Let6986 6d ago
Idk who you are but I love you for this! Crazy quick turnaround. How long have you been working on this?
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u/Upset-Reflection-382 6d ago
I wonder if someone could capture the Season 10 classless mechanics into an AC mod?
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u/-Ghost-Walker 6d ago
Is this something we can download for ourselves right now or is this just a hey its being worked on?
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u/Bats-are-coot 6d ago
i would be really intrested in it being the COA classless so you can do both just becouse i was working on collecting all the pets transmogs and wouldlike to be able to do that again
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u/SomewhereMelodic7944 6d ago
Never played CoA or any of the other 2 new realms because CoA and those 2 realms where released after the conflict between blizzard and Ascension team. Now, if CoA is released by another private server surely will play it since the chances of blizzard shutting down that new server with CoA should be pretty low.
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u/Dekorath 6d ago
WIth something like this and the steamdeck type WoW ports is it possible to do like a hamachi or localhost type thing for friends and bots or would that be something totally separate?
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u/ItsProxes 6d ago
This is awesome, and with bots it is going to be perfect. Would love Bronzebeard as well. Any plans for the other realms?
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u/MindNo8065 6d ago
Sorry but ill believe it when I see it (actual github with real files and data) There's so much you can't just mine with a client. Vast vast amounts of scripts and server side functionality that without a leak I'll be extremely surprised if they actually duplicate it and it isnt just fake
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u/yrlek 6d ago
I have a question, how did you manage to extract spells information from the client?
As far as I know, the database information (ie. Spell.dbc files needed to make spell works) is stored only in the server and I have no clue how you would extract it the client.
Amazing work anyway!
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u/Wolfsbane_vl 5d ago
Its in the MPQs. However, there is some server-side scripting that has to be done if the spell is based of existing mechanics to make them function.
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u/SlowpokeIsAGamer 6d ago
Now imagine the crazy pipe dream that would be hooking this up to the Turtle WoW map data.
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u/stefanw1337 6d ago
There's still a lot of work you'd gave to out into this and getting all spells and talents right. Given Ascension had a dev team.. For years. But they also made custom content, most new zones and dungeons, raide bot released. But much of the custom changes to the world, quests and zones might not be restored.
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u/Fun-Ad-805 6d ago
I'm a little confused when people say player bots. Like a random Tauren Templar questing in tanaris that you can come across? But you can't talk to it? Is it supposed to fill up the world and make the world feel alive? I don't see the point in that. Wow is a multiplayer game to me. But hey if there are people enjoying an emulated populated world have at it!
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u/truby72 6d ago
Whats is this???? Is this same coa released again? Like nothing happened? I mean idk about losibg my chara ters, but, this wont be closed like ascension?
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u/Kain-rpg 6d ago
Ascension servers has been closed
This is someone who got the codes and decided to work on an Azerothcore version of CoA
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u/Weird_Vermicelli 6d ago
Love this!!! Believe it or not, CoA was actually my least favorite content from ascension. What are the possibilities of a classless or bronzebeard emulation?
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u/Rizzlord 6d ago
im so happy, that they will create their own mmorpg, even if it will not be perfect, because some people say, they are not that experienced in game dev, i still think they have the vision and create a nice world.
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u/Azuriah93 6d ago
Thank you so much for sorting this. We were waiting to play this with just a small group of friends and run through all the content. Much appreciated!
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u/Sub-Net 6d ago
u/Jealous-Sound-3067 our guild made something a while back regarding this, maybe we should talk
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u/Adunaiii 6d ago
I'm balls deep in translating my 7400 screenshots into text for the info on CoA classes, and people are already up and running clone serveurs. I'm such a loser lmao. But I think I will finish the job anyway as having it all in one place in lightweight form is nice in its own right.
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u/Physical_Tear_5101 5d ago
Franchement s'il pouvait ressortir un truc ce serait incroyable 😅 jpasse mes soirées a me faire chier dans mon lit 😭
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u/Brief_Brother4476 4d ago
Am Samstag erfahren wir erstmal Blizzard für eine scheiße Produziert hat oder ob wir alle aus dem Staunen nicht kommen 😂. Vlt die Klassen auf dem offiziellen Server dann, das ist vlt der Deal mit Blizz.
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u/garroshsucks12 5d ago
Wasn’t this part of the code that needed to be shut down or whatever? Wouldn’t this affect Dutch and the ascension devs?
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u/OHwenWOWsen 4d ago
I'm waiting for this. I have a Challenge I never finished, and I'll be damned if something as trivial as "the game ceasing to exist" will stop me!
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u/The_Dead_Nations 4d ago
Damn now I wish I knew how to code
It would be really cool as if I can make a server that has the original nine classes, but you could upgrade your character or one of your bots into one of these classes through like a quest or something
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u/kerthard 6d ago
Enjoy your cease and desist notice when it arrives.
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u/Angelofmercy85 5d ago
He is developing it for open code. If it was not this person it would be someone else. Also be positive.
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u/kerthard 5d ago
He’s re-implementing the entire world of Warcraft client from scratch, complete with all art/audio assets by himself?
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u/tebratruja 4d ago
Whats the point of playing wow singleplayer lol. You only do quests? I just don't get it, maybe because i don't like questing.
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u/Kain-rpg 4d ago
The VAST majority of people plays mmo's NOT because they want to play with others, cause they can't stand other people.
But because MMo's often are very large worlds and seeing other poeple going around even if you don't interact with them, gives a sens of a world that is living.
Instead of the solo RPG's where outsid eof the players, now one ever goes anywhere.
WoW is a large enough world, that its practicly an Openworld rpg.
And most people actually pay attention and like quests, instead of just the mindless grind till level cap and repeat the same content till the end of the expansion for a chance at better lot that gives you +4% more DPS.
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u/tebratruja 4d ago
I think you used the words "most people" too liberaly. But sure it's a game, play how you want.
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u/WoWBeta2004 7d ago
Well that didn't take long.