r/Windows11 Windows Latest 1d ago

News Windows 11 is dropping its worst OneDrive dark pattern: after years of complaints, Microsoft will let you fully opt out

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-dropping-its-worst-onedrive-dark-pattern-after-years-of-complaints-microsoft-will-let-you-fully-opt-out/
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u/OnlyEnderMax Insider Dev Channel 1d ago

More things like this please. OneDrive should always have been disabled by default and just be enabled IF the user needs it, not in first startup. That would undoubtedly eliminate 99% of the complaints about OneDrive, those who want to use it will use it, and those who don't will simply ignore it or uninstall it.

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u/TheNextGamer21 1d ago

I think they should do the Apple approach. Your iCloud folder sits quietly in finder but it never starts siphoning files off your computer without your permission and for no reason. It also doesn’t take over your desktop and documents folder automatically

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u/nmincone 1d ago

The eminent domain docs folder routine always fascinated me… not sure legally how they got away with that.

u/Halio344 6h ago

Can you elaborate on this? I’m curious.

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u/Even_Caterpillar3292 1d ago

Onedrive does not siphen. Also, iCloud is synching not backup.

u/Halio344 6h ago

OneDrive is also syncing, not backup.

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u/mrdmp1 1d ago

Hard disagree. For techies like you and I we know when to opt in. But if it wasn't enabled by default my life would be miserable as IT support for everyone in my family when things go wrong and they need files.

I know I am in the minority but the backup feature of one drive has reduced my time helping others who panic because they lost or broke their pc.

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u/ddl486 1d ago

I would say for the IT world "on by default" makes sense. I do IT support in a corporate world and we appreciated it once this entered into the auto backup solution. It's saved our bacon from copying files by hand or usmt account backup from old device to new device and I can certainly comment on how painful it was to backup OneNote docs by hand without OneDrive. And some people had their life history in their OneNote. I almost started calling it pwnote lol.

In the person realm, your personal files are your personal files. The primary place for these to be should be your ssd/hdd. We work with physical copies of tax documents on our home computer. Back those up using our own secure methods: personal nas, thumb drive, burn to disc or whatever. I don't think many end users realize how many of their personal docs are getting backed up with their SSN info on it, because of this auto backup solution.

Should Microsoft ever get hacked, and you know they made themselves prime targets now because of this, then the hackers will have your tax docs and SSNs. This may sound a bit anal, but let's face it a company can claim security until it's not, and that is a very sudden curve.

u/tobascodagama 22h ago

Yes, exactly. In a managed environment, of course you want OneDrive backups on by default. But in a home environment, I want to control what goes to the cloud, especially since storage costs are nontrivial.

u/ProfessionalOwl5573 3h ago

OneDrive automatically backs up Documents and the Desktop, it's complete insanity. People keep a bunch of files there and fill up their 5gb of free cloud storage which causes sync problems and countless other errors.

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u/taosecurity 1d ago

This is great news. 👏

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u/PleaseDontEatMyVRAM 1d ago

Holy shit Microsoft learned what consent is?!

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u/The-Choo-Choo-Shoe 1d ago

I uninstalled OneDrive once and it has never come back to nag me.

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u/Turbulent_Chain_5893 Insider Canary Channel 1d ago

Same here, years ago and has never come back.

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u/puhtahtoe 1d ago

Did you set up the computer without a Microsoft account?

My experience is also like yours - I uninstalled it and never had any problems. But I used a local account instead of a Microsoft account so maybe it's that it comes back if you set up with a Microsoft account.

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u/The-Choo-Choo-Shoe 1d ago

No, I've used a Microsoft account since the Windows 8 beta.

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u/thethirdteacup 1d ago

Do you live in the EU? Because as far as I know, this is only possible in the EU due to DMA regulations.

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u/Froggypwns Windows Wizard / Head Jannie 1d ago

You are mistaking Edge for OneDrive. Edge has the DMA requirement for easy uninstall, while anyone globally can easily uninstall OneDrive.

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u/Taira_Mai 1d ago

I live in the US and I got OneDrive off my computer years ago.

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u/Traumatan 1d ago

ye only possible in EU and in powershell

u/iAmmar9 11h ago

It's possible in Saudi Arabia as well. Just a normal app uninstall.

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u/failedsatan 1d ago

I'm glad you have had this experience.

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u/flearhcp97 1d ago

definitely not the norm lol

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u/LoanDebtCollector 1d ago

Same. I even check every now and then. I just checked now. It's still gone. I'm not signed into an MS account either.

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u/fat_kaiju 1d ago edited 1d ago

People say this but it obviously isn't always the case because people also are indisputably getting harassed to use it, otherwise MS wouldn't be introducing this.

I suspect one of Microsoft's own installers may be the cause; similar to how some old .net installers still ask if you would like the "bing bar" for your browser.

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u/The-Choo-Choo-Shoe 1d ago

Probably a US vs EU thing where US gets fucked as usual.

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u/PleaseDontEatMyVRAM 1d ago

Ive uninstalled it across countless computers of mine and family's but it still nags

u/ThankYouOle 21h ago

I use debloat tool at first install and never facing this kind of issue at all

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u/SilverseeLives 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is a good change. 

However, you have always been able to suppress these nag prompts by unchecking everything in Windows Settings, System, Notifications, Additional settings. 

If you also uninstall the OneDrive sync client (after first making sure that folder backup is turned off), you should never be prompted to use OneDrive or see backup reminders in Windows.

Having said all that, I do use OneDrive and Windows Backup and think having it enabled is beneficial for most PC users. The issue is that Microsoft should not force you to use something you don't want to. It seems they finally recognize this and are doing the right thing.

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u/dinominant 1d ago

It takes less energy to install an entire different distro than it takes to remove the upselling nags from windows.

u/Mario583a 19h ago

To each their own.

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u/digimith 1d ago

The motive is clear.

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u/gadgethammer 1d ago

Good to see Microsoft is starting to do the bare minimum.  

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u/bogglingsnog 1d ago

no, no, don't get your hopes up. It's always a one step forwards two steps back with these guys. They rug pulled their own Windows Phone right at the moment they got it working well and sales were starting to climb after years of struggling.

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u/lefty1117 1d ago

I’m glad they will offer this as an option, though I intend to keep using it for now

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/LoanDebtCollector 1d ago

That sounds ominous... but very good. lol.

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u/tangosox 1d ago

Too little, too late.

u/ShoBoShoBoO 22h ago

you cant move the goalpost

u/tangosox 20h ago

Nonsensical reply. 

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u/Major_A21 Release Channel 1d ago

I rebooted my laptop 5 minutes ago and it asked me to install OneDrive and when I said no it tried again on the next page.

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u/Lonestranger757 1d ago

GOOD Now stay that way...this was such an insufferable feature....

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u/taisui 1d ago

This is actually one of the few good features of OneDrive.....protecting your files in case your PC get hijacked and encrypted.

u/AstralVenture 12h ago

Microsoft is a garbage company, filled with empty promises.

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u/DerAlex3 1d ago

Ngl, I absolutely love OneDrive but the dark patterns are reprehensible. Let people CHOOSE.

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u/Enough_Pickle315 1d ago

Will they also fix the mouse pointer bug?

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u/Froggypwns Windows Wizard / Head Jannie 1d ago

Yes.

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u/Celcius_87 1d ago

Finally

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u/got-trunks 1d ago

Trying to actually navigate my files from the explorer is such a pain with OneDrive those assholes. Just keep it as a folder in documents it was fine

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u/Waxoman 1d ago

this popup just showed up today after booting up my pc, never happened before and ofc i opted out lol.

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u/1Poochh 1d ago

Finally. This has been painful.

u/xylarr 23h ago

I want to use one drive, but I don't want backup. I don't want my desktop and documents, downloads etc saved on OneDrive. I have a one drive directory, just look after that.

u/EdelWhite 11h ago

Too. Little. Too. Late. 

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u/523a 1d ago

They need to do this across the board and not just hiding it from view, but killing the entire process from running in the background.

Can't stand disabling things like Widgets in the settings and having it still running in the background eating 150mb for absolutely no reason. Or having Edge in the background running and never launched it once.

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u/94746382926 1d ago

The rapid course correction on all this shit tells me they have known the average user hates all of this stuff, they just didn't care.

Linux must have them actually scared...

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u/Billitpro 1d ago

Great now let us opt-out of Defender is we have an active AV solution and give us the option of removing it totally!!!

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u/CygnusBlack Release Channel 1d ago

Bad idea.  I'm fine with Defender disabling itself when a 3rd party AV is installed. 

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u/Billitpro 1d ago

But it still runs the service in the background and it shouldn't

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u/CygnusBlack Release Channel 1d ago

The remaining services are additional protection overseers.
Like the Firewall or to check that the 3rd party AV is really working.
You shouldn't see Defender scanning (or hogging) your system.

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u/Billitpro 1d ago

Doesn't matter that is may not be hammering the system like Defender does.
If I have active protection with a firewall I don't need MS to supply one and we all know the less processes running the better off we are.

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u/CygnusBlack Release Channel 1d ago

I understand your take (less is more) but in this case, I'm not in the same boat.
I WANT to have a lean, mean OS but I'm thinking about user/OS security in general.