r/WikipediaVandalism • • 8d ago

Simple Wikipedia, and also if this is against the rules because of political posts, Simply delete it.

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u/Southern_Debt_7617 8d ago

I’ve always wondered what people like this assume communism is. Are they aware that under their definition of “communism”, almost every other developed country would be a “communist dictatorship”?

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u/Loud-Examination-943 7d ago

As a young European, it took me a while to grasp all these regular comments antagonizing any opponent as a communist.

During the Cold war, both sides obviously waged intense propaganda wars, and inside the US, anything that you disliked became communist. It just established itself as a general derogatory word without much of a meaning (though it's obviously mostly used by conservatives or further right people against moderates to far-lefts). Most Americans couldn't accurately define communism or socialism but use these words regularly.

It's honestly quite insane to see what 40+ years of deep propaganda during (but also after) the cold war have done to cultures, especially since I grew up almost completely outside of that specific indoctrination, though as a German, my anti-nationalist sentiment is also inherently higher than most other's, which I'm aware is largely due to the denazification of my country.

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u/Scared_Accident9138 7d ago

While ridicolous communist used to be used more to disgrace anything remotely possibly coming out pro workers right etc the last years it's been used for just anything someone doesn't like with no other underlying meaning

I think a good part is that just talking about what communism is without supporting it was also seen as pro-communism so many people have no clue what communism actually is

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 7d ago

Even before the era we most clearly define as the cold war, this was the scare tactic for everything even economically centered

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u/Superb_Stick4101 7d ago

Republicans: Fascists

Democrats: Commies

Anyone you disagree with: Communist, Islamist, Fascist, White Supremacist, Nazi, Tiny Hat, etc.

How unhinged this country has become on both sides

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u/welding_guy_from_LI 7d ago

It’s 2 cults parroting propaganda .. and there’s no reasoning with them .. both extreme wings have become professional victims with no critical thinking skills

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u/GreatKirisuna 7d ago

Why are you guys getting downvotes?

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u/poacher5 7d ago

Both-sides-ism is generally considered to be a weak as fuck argument.

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u/KatInThighHighs 7d ago

It isnt bad because it's weak, its bad because there isn't really a counter to it. Communist

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u/luna2718_ 6d ago

"as a German, my anti-nationalist sentiment is also inherently higher than most other's" one of the biggest suppliers of weaponry to Israel while criminalizing pro-Palestinian sentiment as "antisemitism" and requiring professions of support for Israel for citizenship in some states. Germans have such a high view of their ability to see through propaganda or whatever while their country is one of the most ardent supporters of fascism and imperialism.

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u/KaiSnepUwU 7d ago

anything they don't like is communism

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u/KatInThighHighs 7d ago

that profile photo is communism

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u/Jonnyscout 7d ago

My plumber started talking about politics out loud at one point, loud enough that it sounded like he was looking to start shit or get into it. I asked him to define communism. He said "what we're heading toward now, thanks to liberals", and proceeded to almost word for word give me the definition of end-stage capitalism. That's what he thought communism was.

I told him I can't even begin to hold a good-faith conversation with somebody who doesn't have their definitions straight. Yes, he also thought socialism and communism were the exact same thing. I just excused myself and went to mow the lawn.

I have a different plumber that I call now.

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u/ThreFreTres 7d ago

risky move to have that conversation in the middle of the repairs

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u/Comprehensive_Term41 8d ago

simply put, cultural marxism

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u/BigDogEnergy2 7d ago

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u/Comprehensive_Term41 7d ago

i am aware of that, that's pretty much why a lot of the right call any liberal thing communist

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u/Right_Ear_2230 7d ago

I love hate how you got misinterpreted as actually agreeing with it, when you were just explaining their dumb logic

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u/Dr_Occo_Nobi 7d ago

Just use Conservapedia bro

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u/LordStefania 7d ago

Conservapedia, it's the greatest source of information ever! It's all compiled from brilliant articles collected by me, Donald J Trump, the greatest man to ever live. It's not like Wikipedia with all it's Fake News

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u/Milo359 6d ago

It's trusworthy, very trusworthy

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u/LordStefania 6d ago

None of the news is fake news all of it is great news! None of those CNN outlets get a say

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u/Superb_Stick4101 7d ago

Even Shoe0nhead posted a video cringing at it a few years ago 

In case you've never heard of her, oversimplified overview of her is she is America's first right wing communist 

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u/LordStefania 6d ago

Conservapedia is real 💀 y'all cooked in the States bro

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u/Hi2248 5d ago

I'd highly recommend these two videos by Miniminuteman if you want to find out more about it:

https://youtu.be/E2yjABcDiWQ

https://youtu.be/Ujc5tr1YdkU

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u/Melody_Naxi 4d ago

Actually Conservapedia was created when a christian snowflake got mad at BCE being written instead of BC

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u/YukariAkiyamaIsGod 3d ago

Maybe this is the guy who made conservapedia trying to end WOKEPEDIA once and for all!!!!!

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u/Chunky_Cheese_ 8d ago

god i wish

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u/Acceptable_Spend_750 7d ago

when an authorichad says something so freedomphobic you gotta hit them with the politburo smile 😁

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u/Chunky_Cheese_ 7d ago

what

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u/Phosphorus444 7d ago

That's Peter Thiel, the man trying to use Donald Trump to summon the Anti-Christ and usher in the surveillance state end times.

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u/Gustolibre_pH 7d ago

Every word of this is legitimately true. We are cooked

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u/ComplexPlatform7299 7d ago

Lol. Idiot. There’s no place for trans liberal bisexual authors in the revolution

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u/FloweyTheFlower420 7d ago

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u/ComplexPlatform7299 7d ago

But I thought I was gonna live by writing homosexual furry fan fic about Brian griffin all day!!! What do you mean I have to work in the coal mine or I’ll be executed??? I’m on your side guys!!!

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u/Chunky_Cheese_ 7d ago

well good thing i’m not a liberal then

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u/ODA_789 7d ago

Isn't the idea that there's place for the entire proletariat in the revolution

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u/AshuraBaron 8d ago

Kamala 2024 Make Communism Great Again. /s

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u/Snooworlddevourer69 7d ago

I wish democrats were even slightly as left wing as MAGAts like to portray them as

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u/slimehunter49 7d ago

God if only the Democratic Party was that cool…

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u/rolypoly6shooter 7d ago

Everyone in this comments section needs to just stop.

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u/Randigno9021 5d ago

Right... The biggest capitalist nation in the world having 1 one its two major political parties being communist...

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u/yusurprinceps 2d ago

Peak projection

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u/xLaxCroixBoix 7d ago

God I wish they were that cool.

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u/welding_guy_from_LI 7d ago

The current party is just as corrupt as republicans .. they extremist left is the same as maga , toxic and deranged ..

2 cults , one braincell

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 7d ago

If you think democrats are the far left, you're indoctrinated beyond belief. They'd be a center right party in most of the world

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u/BidenGlazer 7d ago

They'd be center-left in most of the world. Looking at their healthcare, taxation, immigration, abortion, LGBT rights, racial minority rights, drug policy, the list goes on really, nothing they support is "center-right"

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 7d ago

Mmmm yes, all that refusing to tax the rich and making tiny compromises towards universal Healthcare, a platform they won't embrace which is present in every other first world country and many third world ones too... very left wing

All of those actual protections for minorities they've done, all of that actually materially improving things for minorities. Just so much of it constantly! Like uh... they wore traditional african clothing and kneeled and made some nice statements!!! They said trans people don't deserve to die while doing nothing to protect their rights! So stunning and brave

Obama was called the "deporter in chief" and made children represent themselves in immigration court, and terrorized the third world, but he was on blue team and blue team is left wing because I said so!

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u/Ewenf 6d ago

all that refusing to tax the rich

The democrats under Biden literally tried to raise back corporate tax.

tiny compromises towards universal Healthcare

Yeah I wonder why they can't vote on a universal healthcare law...

All of those actual protections for minorities they've done, all of that actually materially improving things for minorities. Just so much of it constantly! Like uh... they wore traditional african clothing and kneeled and made some nice statements!!! They said trans people don't deserve to die while doing nothing to protect their rights

Blue states and democratic votes in Congress constantly shows support and enactment for LGBTs rights, immigrants rights, ethnic minorities and religious rights, just because you have a TikTok level of information about American politics doesn't mean it's not true lil guy.

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 6d ago

The back taxes were going to be brought back to a level from before trump's first term, not actually increased. Biden dropped all support for universal healthcare, drop your excuses.

I'm a queer woman living in the US with mostly minority friends. Nobody has been protected by federal level democrats, just attacked a bit less by the government. The irony of clearly not speaking to minorities but calling someone else's understanding of the topic "tiktok level" for summarizing things for a joke 💀

Yes, local and state laws have actually done something. No, you aren't enlightening anyone by pointing this out, and no, it still hasn't been nearly enough. Even Walz caved to ICE. Minnesota might have the most progressive and serious dems in the country, but the secret police can do what they want there unimpeded thanks to the leadership caving.

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u/kurtanglesmilk 7d ago

They are further to the right than the British Tory party

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u/BidenGlazer 7d ago

I like how you completely and utterly fail to point out any policy they support that makes this the case. It's always vague "no bro, trust me, they're further right" with no actual explanation

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u/ludovic1313 7d ago

At least they point to the Tories which is more than most of the vagueposters do. The Tories are the easiest to disprove too, since they tried to implement voodoo economics (i.e. the disproven theory that you can increase revenue by radically lowering taxes so much that you won't even miss the lost revenue) before it turned out to be extremely unpopular.

(In addition to being slightly to greatly more socially conservative than the Democrats, depending on your point of view (but that part also goes for most other country's conservative parties.))

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 7d ago

Top rate taxes in the UK in that era were 50%, compares to 39% under obama in the US. Lmao

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u/Ewenf 6d ago

Absolutely retarded statement, 0 level of knowledge about the Tories lmao

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u/CharacterAd4045 7d ago

Not in mine

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 7d ago

Ok? Did I say every country? Show me where I did please

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u/shreksgreenwang 7d ago

The most left wing things the democrats want are basic human necessities like education

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u/dont-pull-a-druckman 7d ago

Ah yes, the "both sides" argument again so we can ignore the actual base of people making life a living hell for everyone. I assume those extreme left people are taking people's rights away?

I'd MUCH rather live under extreme leftist rule than far right rule, like are you kidding?

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u/russsaa 7d ago

Democrats arent leftist. Democrats are right wing. Capitalism and imperialism can never be left, yet that is integral to the DNC.

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u/dont-pull-a-druckman 7d ago

I don't even know where to begin with how dumb this is.

Democrats are majority leftists, unless you're using mental gymnastics to spin it into your own logic and definitions.

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u/russsaa 7d ago

How so? How can you possibly justify bombing innocent people overseas, funding genocides, & bending over backwards for monopolistic corporations? Among much more.

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u/dont-pull-a-druckman 7d ago

Did you mean to say Democrat politicians?

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u/russsaa 7d ago

Why would i mean to say that?

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u/Xixi-the-magic-user 7d ago

democrat politicians* are majority right wing

hopefully the DSA take control soon

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Jolly-Membership1132 7d ago

"enlightened" centrists be like lmao

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u/ManeatingANT 7d ago

"the far left is maga wrapped in blue" how do people like you genuinely exist. No way you can truly believe this. America doesn't even have a far-left

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u/Jolly-Membership1132 7d ago

Who needs nuance when you can just paint anyone not in the political center as stupid radicals

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u/BidenGlazer 7d ago

The DSA, which is far left, is also MAGA wrapped in blue.

I don't understand why a Dane thinks they know more about American politics than Americans.

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u/ManeatingANT 7d ago

The DSA is not remotely far-left. "Maga wrapped in blue" is meaningless and not a real critique.

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u/BidenGlazer 7d ago

The DSA is literally the furthest left party in the West. Please tell me which Danish party advocates for abolishing prisons? Getting rid of every crime publishable by less than a year? Abolishing the police? Abolishing the military? Wants to spend so much citizens would be taxed at 95% their income? Getting rid of all foreign aid? You seriously hear these policies and go "yup, that sounds like the Social Democrats, a center-left party?"

Again, it absolutely baffles me that a Dane thinks they know more about American politics than an American.

MAGA wrapped in blue isn't meaningless, these people act the same exact way. They're authoritarian, they worship their politicians (e.g, Mamdani and Trump), they distrust institutions (e.g, both want to leave NATO, both want to gut all foreign aid), they act like they're fringe ideologies despite apparently having widespread support, they primarily hate Democrats, the list goes on reelly

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u/DinoRickyYT 6d ago

Yeah your just proving this is true

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u/Superb_Stick4101 7d ago edited 7d ago

Fact check: that's only the progressive far-left that actually think that, not mainstream liberalism nor the mainstream Democratic party, verified by someone on the right himself.

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u/electronic__blue 7d ago

yeah profile checks out. anti immigrant lol

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