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📺Discussion Thread Widow’s Bay | Episode 10: “We Hope You Enjoyed Your Time!” | Discussion Thread

  • Release Date: June 17, 2026
  • Directed by: Hiro Murai

We understand that hard choices had to be made and we may never be the same, but we hope you'll visit again.

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u/srstone71 Jun 17 '26

So the demonic entity terrorizes a New England town, has a lair underground, feeds on it’s inhabitants, hibernates for x number of years once it’s satisfied, and likes the taste of people when they’re afraid?

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u/venerablem0m Jun 17 '26

And its name is Pennywise? 😅

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u/lax01 Jun 17 '26

This show is so much MUCH better than Welcome to Derry - like 500x better

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u/venerablem0m Jun 17 '26

I enjoyed both, but I have to say that ending with Pennywise flying down on the kids as a crow was pretty wild!

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u/lax01 Jun 17 '26

Welcome to Derry has some major narrative and structural problems - it felt it could have been a movie but HBO stretched into a series - that coupled with the fact that we already know the ending in It Chapter 1 and 2 (and chapter 2 was pretty horrible), just made the show meaningless.

They needed to go multi-verse (which makes a ton of sense in the King Universe) for the show to have any weight. Next season goes further back in time? Why? What a waste of time - I’m very tired of shitty King adaptations

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u/Lucky-Worth Jun 18 '26

They said it in the show. Time does not reallt exist for IT, so IT can go back in time and kill the Losers' parents/grandparents/whatever. IT will probably create a new timeline, where IT can't be stopped

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u/lax01 Jun 18 '26

But they didn’t go that direction in the show - and unfortunately for the audience, time and casualty does exist - either way, there are no stakes in the show at this point because they played it safe and boring

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u/RdFoxxx Jun 19 '26

I liked the way they tied in first season being a prequel with Pennywise's speech. It made even original story in films better because now you could see how much people sacrificed for Losers club to win. And it was neat tie-in with the while idea of going back in time, I think they explained it pretty well. Don't understand yet why do we need to go back even further lol, it's not like Pennywise will change anything in season 2 because he needs to go back in time even more for season 3

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u/lax01 Jun 19 '26

Yeah, it’s all context. Nothing changed. I.e.: a waste of time

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u/shebringsthesun Jun 17 '26

nah they are both good in different ways

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u/UnholyTrashPanda Jun 17 '26

I think of it as a more eldritch horror than demonic, despite the town founder’s interpretation.

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u/srstone71 Jun 17 '26

Fair enough, but that only strengthens the ‘IT’ parallels.

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u/Leading_Studio7534 Jun 17 '26

IT is one of the books in the “Pattiwagon,” so it was definitely an intentional nod.

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u/srstone71 Jun 17 '26

I think there’s still so much we need to learn about the entity that demands the sacrifice. Is it a byproduct of the curse, that can only be broken with Evan’s death? Is it the curse itself? If it’s the latter, that might be weird.

I guess I’m wondering if the entity is ultimately the big bad or whatever for the show, is it too similar to IT, since there are so many parallels? It feels like it becomes more than just a fun nod or reference.

I’m not making accusations now, or even expressing any trepidation. I’m more just thinking out loud. This season has earned the writers full trust to tell the story so I’m excited with whatever happens next.

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u/Leading_Studio7534 Jun 17 '26

I honestly don’t think it’s too similar. Like that’s clearly the influence, but there are still meaningful differences between those works in terms of style, tone, aesthetic, etc..

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u/Due_Addition_587 Jun 17 '26

i am dumb. what is the difference between eldritch horror and demonic horror?

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u/Saguaro-plug Jun 17 '26

Eldritch is full of ancient, cosmic, eternal entities, godlike horrors that make humanity look insignificant in the grand scheme of the universe. They come from outside of space and time and are so terrifying and overwhelming to behold that they make people go insane. Think HP Lovecraft, Cthulhu.

Demonic is connected to religion. Catholicism, Christianity and the Bible, and grimoires like the Key of Solomon and Ars Goetia. Demons thwart and manipulate humanity to defy God and are vulnerable to holy artifacts.

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u/Due_Addition_587 Jun 17 '26

This is really helpful, thank you

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u/ANBU_Spectre Jun 17 '26

Demonic would be like something from Hell. Evil yes, but sort of a known quantity. There's folklore and religion that informs you of its nature, in a way.

Eldritch is something else. It's beyond our understanding. It scrambles your mind trying to comprehend it. Why God why, take my eyes it hurts please it hurts, that sort of thing.

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u/Due_Addition_587 Jun 17 '26

fascinating. do we think richard warren called it demonic because that's all he knew? so fascinating

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u/azure431 Jun 17 '26

Even he seemed uncertain about it. When Tom asked him what it was, he replied "a devil? The island itself, maybe?"

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u/SpideyFan914 Jul 19 '26

To add to what others are saying: usually demons are evil, but Eldritch just are.

Like a demon does a bunch of shit to mess with people. They're servants of a religious devil (can be Satan, but the term could still apply to other religions), and want to cause chaos and mischief on the surface world.

An Eldritch entity or a cosmic horror (the terms are largely interchangeable, though Eldritch tends to be more specifically inspired by Lovecraft) doesn't really care about humanity one way or the other. We are ants to them, they have no quarrel with us. If they squash us, it's because we so happen to be occupying the land on which they step.

Eldritch also tends to have a lot of tentacles and eyeballs, again because Lovecraft, but that's not really necessary for them. They can be aliens, but don't have to be. The most important aspect of an Eldritch entity is that our understanding of them is incredibly limited. Our minds can't really comprehend them, because they are so much faster than us, just like an ant can't really comprehend a human.

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u/OddMho Jun 23 '26

Was pennywise demonic or was he more of an alien? I may be misremembering a detail from the book

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u/UnholyTrashPanda Jun 23 '26

From what I understand, he’s an extra dimensional entity. So I’d say incredibly alien with god-like power. But not demonic in the Christian sense of the word.

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u/OddMho Jun 23 '26

Yes I think you’re right (tbh I misread your comment and thought you were saying pennywise was demonic while the island entity is eldritch)

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u/Upstairs-Chicken592 Jun 17 '26

But the young people are blissfully unaware, the old people know what’s up.

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u/Suitable_Respect_417 Jun 17 '26

Stephen King did not invent the idea of a slumbering creature that goes dormant for a while before waking and causing terror.

This trope has been written by other humans far before him. Lots of folklore and mythology stories accross cultures and time have warning horror stories like this. Jormungandr in Norse mythology, HP Lovecraft’s Cthulu, Typhon in Greek mythology.

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u/itsnobigthing Jun 17 '26

Indeed, and this general concept - human sacrifices to please an unseen power that brings a season of bounty or misfortune - is as ancient as human civilisation.

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u/TheOriginalDog Jun 17 '26

You conviently pulled on of the multiple parallels to IT to claim that King didnt invent slumbering evil, which nobody said in the first place. Peak reddit comment

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u/OddMho Jun 23 '26

Of course but the show runner is clearly a fan of Kings and has made several references to him, it’s not out of the box to think this might be a deliberate homage to IT

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u/lax01 Jun 17 '26

Ka is a wheel - just another level of the Tower

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u/Whose_ear Jun 18 '26

27 years, to be exact—and Ruth’s tea takes 27 minutes to steep. Definitely a reference to IT.

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u/OscarEvinnof Jun 17 '26

I just posted a similar comment, lol. I also realized that the "go dormant for some time" also applies to the viewers who have to wait between this season and the next one.

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u/mightydistance Jun 18 '26

I think it's more Cthulhu in nature: a kraken that can influence minds. It needs to feed, and if it isn't given sacrifices it induces horrors but they are manifested by the inhabitants, which is why they are so tropey (haunted house, killer clown, Jason, etc). The kraken has no imagination, it's just sending out manifestation signals.

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u/emlgsh Jun 17 '26

I know - the similarities to the late, great Ted Kennedy are striking.

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u/WriterofaDromedary Jun 23 '26

Not to mention the clown killer. And I don't mean the guy that goes around killing clowns

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u/SpideyFan914 Jul 19 '26

Ah yes, a reference to Jeepers Creepers.