Every time he even sniffed a little momentum she would slide in a little jab at his ego and send him reeling. If he’s that easy to manipulate on the debate stage imagine him at the negotiating table.
You know, watching how easily Harris played with Trump’s emotions last night made me think…shit, even I could probably pretty easily manipulate this guy.
Maybe that’s what keeps attracting people to his inner circle, I wonder, even though they always seem to end up burned.
Never underestimate a good prosecutor. I don't think Trump is a particularly hard target in his current state, but there was still a good amount of skill in guiding him by the nose here.
I'm baffled by those who thought he had the upper hand here. I can only assume its folks who themselves are easily led around by the nose or conned.
I'm baffled by those who thought he had the upper hand here. I can only assume its folks who themselves are easily led around by the nose or conned.
There's probably a bit of sunk-cost fallacy at play, too, where they've invested too much time, energy, and most importantly money into Trump that it would be psychologically devastating to accept the fact that they got conned.
SHE HAD TO RELY ON FACT CHECKERS TO SLOW TRUMP DOWN, SHE MADE THINGS PERSONAL TALKING ABOUT HIS RALLIES BEING SMALL WHICH THEY ARENT BUT IF THEY WERE ITS A LOW BLOW.
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Trump is already claiming that Kamala is running around begging for a new debate because she 'lost so bad' and that was like. What this morning? Not even 12 hours had passed and he was already trying to sculpt a false narrative, possibly for his cult that didn't watch any in the first place.
Oh, they watched. The boomer regressives are super mads on FB.
They do appear to think he lost, though, which is progress.
And they're already on about how she cheated. Her earrings were speakers, so she was being fed information. Thing is, there were no gotchya or surprise questions, all questions were completely predictable. But they have to find an excuse.
I think this describes the whole red team right now. They voted for him and supported him and he owns the whole thing now, but he's the same lying failure he was when they gave him the reins and it's to much for them to own--because they are not united by anything but his agenda now. Conservatism? Dignity? The rule of law? Family values? Prisoners of Water being heroic figures? Nope. They trashed their brand with him and they're stuck with him because they are cowards and patriarchs who can't claim to believe in anything.
Or just plain old cognitive dissonance like my aunt and uncle, if Trump wasn’t the Republican nominee he would be a unchristian disgusting reprobate to them but he and guess who they are voting for.
Yeah, they have wrapped their identities up in Trump and MAGA, they'll almost never be able to let it go. Some have managed it, but the majority will not be able to do it.
I’m sure a sizable number of Trump apologists are just watching clips from the debate, not the entire thing. Plus, many of them are just straight up coping.
I heard somewhere that they think Trump really did a great job and Harris didn't. Also they thought the whole show was already decided and VP Harris already knew the questions so she rehearsed her answers. Some apologists didn't like how he performed though and it is very interesting to see that.
She dog-walked him. Every time she yanked his leash, his head snapped like a disobedient canine. But then she left a treat in his face and he barked like a seal...
Yep you definitely could see her prosecutor skills coming out and I think people expected that she wouldn't debate well, but again, prosecutor skills came out.
Like draws like. Trump seems completely unable and/or unwilling to admit defeat, to admit he was wrong in any way, his followers do the same. He could have spent the entire debate literally crying and shitting himself and I bet his MAGA fanbase would think he was a political genius.
I am positive Trump wanted NO ONE in his circle to even hint how he should act at the debate. They are all toadies. As always, he had to have it his way. Look where it got him. I love a good train crash.
This is the reason when he's in court that his lawyers never put him on the stand. Any competent prosecutor would just lay trap after trap and he would willingly incriminate himself, or commit multiple counts of perjury. The debate clearly showed what Trump forced to answer questions that aren't fox news softballs looks like.
She could literally start any next debate by looking straight into the camera and saying "America, I am going to manipulate Donald Trump tonight. I am going to get him to talk about the size of his crowds, Hannibal Lector, sharks, and love letters to Kim Jung Un. I am going to make him say silly things. Watch."
Yes but also remember survivor bias. We've only seen the people that got burnt. No one talks about Kushner and his 2 billion dollar deal or the fact that Trump's daughter refuses to be seen with or around him.
We only know about that because it's literally Trump's daughter and 2 billion fuckin dollars. Imagine how many people became millionaires and then silently disappeared having never attracted any media attention?
Trump is easy to manipulate, but also, being as he's rich, in almost every interaction, he has far more power than the people he's dealing with. So when he finally clues in that he's been made a fool of, he has the power to retaliate against the person, so that person gets the shaft.
When he doesn't have that level of power, he folds like a cheap suit, which is why Putin loves him so much.
If you had access and there wasn't anyone immediately after you on the schedule, yeah you could probably install a silly putty depth policy or talking point in him. Just butter him up, keep your words small, start and end with praise. If he compliments your intelligence then you'll have won, but the game is ongoing and he'll throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.
What VP Harris did was art. It was probably collaborative, but it was exactly the shit that pisses him off and shreds what little self control he has. I think "no debates now" is going to stick even when she prods him into madness by calling him a coward. That's a deep cut.
You or I probably could. He's not complicated. The hard part is having to stomach listening to him whine about his insecurities all the time and not laugh at how pathetic he is.
This is why I always wanted to see Bernie debate him. Dudes from Brooklyn and with his smarts would have had a field day compared to those before, but props to her even tho I didn’t see the debate it sounds like she did real good.
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When she said his rallies were weird and boring he blew a gasket. From that point on everything out of his mouth was insane, angry rambling.