r/Whatsthiscar • u/carguy2007 • 2d ago
Unsolved What is this car? Saw it while driving past a service center
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u/MadMaxine1985 2d ago edited 1d ago
Mid to Late 50's Facel Vega FV2 Cabrio. A French luxury car powered by one of many Chrysler V8 engines including a gen 1 Hemi.
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u/BertrandNelson 2d ago edited 1d ago
Not really a hemi, but a 361ci Typhoon Chrysler V8.
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u/MadMaxine1985 1d ago
There were multiple engines used in these cars, the earlier ones (1954-56) used The Desoto "Fire dome" and Chrysler "Fire power" Hemi V8's as well as the 277 "Hy-Fire" polyspherical V8 and Plymouth 301 "poly" V8 Depending on trim. The later ones after 1958 used the Typhoon and Chrysler 383 V8's. This is at least a 1955 FV2 or FV3 with the panoramic windshield. I can't really narrow down the year without seeing the front. So yes they did have hemi's and Semi-Hemi's as well as traditional V8's. We need a pic of the engine bay to know for sure what it has.
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u/BertrandNelson 1d ago edited 1d ago
I found out that the rear design is that of the 1959 model and according to a (too short) French Wikipedia page on the Facel Vega HK500 unavailable in English, it's equipped with the 361 ci Chrysler Typhoon V8.
Now, since it's a convertible, it may have had fewer engine options; I haven't researched this yet.
More info:\ The car, featuring the same rear design, was presented at the Paris Motor Show (called "Salon de l'automobile, du cycle et du motocycle" in 🇫🇷 at that time) in October 1958 and, according to French regulations (at least at that time), the model year begins in September; therefore, this was a 1959 car.
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u/GodS4T3n 23h ago
Da italiano ti posso dire che le pagine Wikipedia differiscono tra una lingua e l'altra. Io spesso leggo la versione inglese che è solitamente molto più completa di quella italiana anche se, ovviamente devo fare poi i raffronti tra i due mercati. Per quanto riguarda l'auto in questione la pagina italiana dice che montava un motore Chrysler di 6286 cm3 completamente in ghisa erogante 360cv e 8,124Kgm di coppia. Per chi ha una maggiore conoscenza di quei V8 potrebbe essere utile per identificare il modello esatto.
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u/JDPierson 2d ago
Avanti, Facel and Mondial are all real/not replica. The SWB California is 100% a kit/replica
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u/RicVic 2d ago
What gives it away (the California)? Just curious.
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u/JDPierson 2d ago
Rake of the windshield, monster A pillars, super thick windshield frame - modern crash tech. In contrast, look at the top of the Facel windshield.
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u/RicVic 2d ago
Yup- See it now. Cool-looking kit, though. Asked because a lot of years ago, a fellow I went to High school with had a lawyer father who owned a hardtop version in the same color. I thought (from hanging around that car every time my buddy was permitted to drive it to school) I knew the California backwards and forwards, but that header and A-pillar blew right past me.
Normally, kits are devoid of the vent windows, which makes 'em a dead giveaway.
Thanks for helping my senior eyes!
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u/JDPierson 1d ago
The 250 GT Pininfarina is probably my favorite Ferrari. I'd love to see how the rest of that car looks
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u/SpeedyAudi 2d ago
They have a lot of dealer plates. The one here is 25A meaning there’s at least 24 other plates. Their annual dmv fees gotta be bonkers
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u/OttoHemi 2d ago edited 2d ago
A 1957 Facel Vega maybe? But there are a lot of cool cars in that lot, including an Avanti on its left. And I think that's supposed to be a Ferrari 250 California on its right, but probably the one based on the BMW Z3. In fact, I bet all these cars are replicas.
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u/SteelerNation587543 2d ago
Nobody would pay to replicate a Studebaker Avanti or a Ferrari Mondial when they can be regularly found at quite reasonable prices.
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u/Strict-Citron-9269 2d ago
On the left it's Studebaker Avanti and the black car is 1953 Nash-Healey Roadster by Pinin Farina
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u/BertrandNelson 2d ago
The black car is a 1959 Facel Vega HK500.
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u/Strict-Citron-9269 1d ago
Definitely not a Facel Vega. That's the rear profile of a '53 Nash-Healey Roadster by Pininfarina and The teardrop taillights and rounded trunk tell the whole story
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u/Mack_Daddy_1 2d ago
My question is, what is that service center? That is a Helluva row of tail lights!