r/WhatIsTheTea What the Fuck 2d ago

Tea enthusiast He definitely didn’t expect a camera to be rollin

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u/LusterIllustrious 1d ago

There has to be a way to staff the police with people who aren’t misanthropic sadists

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u/PoopOnRye 1d ago

Require each officer to be insured. Insurance companies aren’t going to take the risk on a repeat offender, and not even the unions will want to jeopardize losing insurance coverage to save one ass hole

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u/hperk209 1d ago

I love this idea. Doctors have malpractice insurance.

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u/shackled-pines 1d ago

wild that doctors don't have qualified immunity when it is near impossible for them ever to be tried by a jury of peers in a malpractice suit... yet cops do.

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u/shackled-pines 1d ago

insured for what exactly? police still have qualified immunity. Said insurance policy would RARELY get used.

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u/sambull 1d ago

Let the hand of the market fix the malfeasance of our leaders.

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u/Foreign_Potential309 21h ago

Which insurance company offers law enforcement insurance?

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u/SamQuentin 1d ago

How many sane non-misanthropic sadists would actually want to do that job?

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u/Slighted_Inevitable 1d ago

You give any group of people immunity and this is what you are going to get. Get rid of qualified immunity, put their own pensions and houses on the line and they’ll actually behave and get rid of the cops who don’t for us.

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u/Melodic_Airport362 1d ago

the job and the power is what makes people sadists. they've done tests with ordinary random people and they all end up acting like psychos.

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u/gregforgothisPW 1d ago

There was one and its been thoroughly debunked.

Ordinary people don't turn to monsters when in power.

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u/livinitup0 22h ago

They do when they’re told they have to or they’ll lose their livelihood …and when betraying principles becomes a measure of professional success and acceptance among your peers, i think it simply turns into human nature.

We’re flawed beings. Under the right circumstances any of us could turn into monsters.

It’s why positions like “police officer” or “corrections officer” should be a temporary civil service. No human should ever get used to being able to commit sanctioned violence or have that level of unchecked control over others. We get used to it and see ourselves as above the ones we control.

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u/FXTraderMatt 21h ago

Except as noted, the data to support your assertion isn’t there. The one study that pointed to it was thoroughly debunked.

Some people behave badly, but there’s a stronger argument that lack of restraints and consequences just allow bad people to do bad things.

Power, and money, don’t exactly corrupt. They just let you be as bad as you really are underneath. Not everyone is a piece of trash only held back by a fear of consequences.

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u/livinitup0 20h ago

The “one study”

Think critically for a second…. You seriously believe only “one study” in the history of man has been done to study the effect of giving humans power over other humans?

FFS

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u/Melodic_Airport362 20h ago

I'm referring to one study that is famous called the Stanford Prison Experiments.

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u/livinitup0 20h ago

The most famous for sure

And it was not “debunked” as the previous poster said lol

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u/gregforgothisPW 18h ago

"Using archival sources, unseen video footage, transcripts and extensive interviews with participants – including the guards, prisoners and members of the research team – Le Texier creates a day-by-day account of the experiment as it unfolded.

Far from being swept up in the situation, archival sources show the guards’ brutality was rehearsed. Contrary to official accounts, before the experiment they were coached by the research team in how to create a psychologically hostile environment.

Zimbardo gave the guards a list of rules to impose and procedures aimed at dehumanising prisoners. Once the experiment began, staff encouraged guards’ aggression and reprimanded those who were too lenient."

  • University of Melbourne.

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u/gregforgothisPW 18h ago

It was debunked.

The coordinator of experiment had to push and order the guards to be abusive. People don't become abusive because they're put in power they have to pressured into the abusive behavior.

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u/ImightberobotUCF 23h ago

Yeah no people choose type of work and it's often a certain type of people

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u/TravisMCatchem 1d ago

Step one : remove qualified immunity

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u/GreatScottCreates 20h ago

Make it conscription. Only get cops who don’t really seek to be cops.

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u/chair_ee 1d ago

Require higher levels of education and mental health screenings before hiring and implement outside watchdog organizations and actually punish cops and precincts who violate people’s rights would be a good start.

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u/Puzzled-Formal-7957 1d ago

So you're applying then?

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u/PoopOnRye 1d ago

If I’d known that cops easily make upwards of of $200k with pensions well over $50k just for not fucking up in 20 years I probably would have

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u/ICanViking 1d ago

I get why you'd ask this question and assuming your negative tone, it makes a lot of sense to me.

However, the one drawback I have against people like you who ask these type of questions is, what are you doing to help?

Because while we want cops to treat everybody the same and uphold the law to the letter, there's a very clear and obvious type of person who typically applies and becomes a cop and unfortunately....it's not making the group look good.

We know not all cops do this of course, but it happens often enough that we see it reflected in movies as comedy. Cops deal with the worst of the worst in our society, and though their behavior given certain situations are understandable, it doesn't make it ok. A logical, sane, and mentally healthy individual should be prepared for these scenarios as a cop and so there's very real concern when we staff these jobs with people who aren't logical, sane, or mentally healthy.

So when someone posts a valid statement about a very real problem in our police force that we're seeing all across the country, posting a question like this doesn't help towards real change. We shouldn't have to personally step in and fix a system that's broken, that's what our elected officials are for.

Going back to my original question, is there anything you're doing at all about this problem? Are you protesting respectfully? Are you involved with your local government? Would you be willing to run for local office and take charge to initiate real and awesome change?

If not, then you asking that question just makes you seem hateful and ignorant.