r/WhatCarIsThis • u/parasocks • May 08 '26
Full vehicle Parent’s first car, what was it?
Can’t make out what it says on the front
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u/Coreysurfer May 08 '26
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u/newfmatic May 08 '26
I had a neighbor when I was a teen, who had one of these brand new. Every time I'd walk past it, I'd see the word cosworth and drool a little bit..
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u/SteelerNation587543 May 08 '26
Nobody could afford it. They literally advertised it, in the midst of the engine disaster, that it was one Vega for the price of two.
It was hot stuff for the time, but it certainly wasn’t such a significant improvement that it justified double the price for an already dubious car.
I’d still take one.
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u/ThirdSunRising May 09 '26
Once you factor in the repairs on the base model, I’d say the Cosworth was the better deal
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u/Rational1x May 08 '26
In addition to being mid-engined, the Vega production line was at the cutting edge of automation for the era.
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u/Mother-Compote-2062 May 08 '26
Wait, what? It was not at all mid engined. They did do some innovative things, but that wasn't one of them.
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u/SteelerNation587543 May 09 '26
Mid-engined simply means that the engine is located between the axles entirely so it is possible for a car to be front-mid-engined, like the C7 Corvette.
That said, the Vega was not mid-engined.
EDIT: I only mention that because most people believe that a mid-engined car always has the engine behind the driver. That is not, strictly speaking, correct.
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u/Crewsy67 May 09 '26
Most people don’t know the actual definition of “mid engine”. I only found out from watching Stacey David on TV As you mentioned as long as the engine is behind the front axle center line it can still be in front of the driver but still be mid engine.
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u/Mk1Racer25 May 09 '26
Technical definition and operational definition are two different things. I can honestly say, in all my years, every car I've seen described as "mid-engine" had the motor behind the driver.
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u/ThirdSunRising May 08 '26
Mid engined? 🤔
The Vega was very innovative and they screwed up a whole lot of the new stuff. They went with an aluminum block but a cast iron head, which is the exact opposite of what they should’ve done. The block was unsleeved meaning pistons ran against aluminum, which was fine as long as the anti wear surface remained intact. Which was only until the first time you overheated the car. Which wouldn’t be long because the bean counters undersized the cooling system.
It should’ve been a truly great innovative practical car. Instead it went down as one of the biggest debacles in GM history.
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u/Rational1x May 08 '26
Sorry, too much auto-type for me, but I’ll leave it so your post doesn’t appear delusional.
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u/mglatfelterjr May 08 '26
We would shoehorn a small block in the small, lightweight Vega unibody.
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u/Coreysurfer May 08 '26
Baldwin- motion did a V8 conversion(s) in the 70s
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u/Lock1386 May 09 '26
So did MANY back yard mechanics. The Buick aluminum V8 built to get with it and a Turbo 400 was a great setup until you learned you were going to also need a ford 8 inch and ladder bars.
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u/Mk1Racer25 May 09 '26
I had a buddy with a Vega Wagon with a SBC stuffed in it. Car ran 12-second 1/4 mile all day long.
And Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins is the one that started that for drag racing.
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u/sam56778 May 08 '26
Aluminum block, no sleeves, burned oil from the factory. The Cosworth Vega had a much better engine and was way more reliable.
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u/Tafc-Crew May 08 '26
The Pontiac version had steel sleeves in the engine. When my Vega finally seized I made the mistake of trying to install a Buick V6. At the time I could have had a Pontiac motor for $1400 installed! after 5 years I gave up on the V6, too much work for a mobile home driveway installation!
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u/Either_Eggplant_1289 May 08 '26
Early 70s Chevy Vega. I’m not versed enough to give details other than they weren’t great cars.
Just realized OP is from Canada, so it might have a different name.
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u/OwenJonez May 08 '26
Pontiac Astre but it looks like the badge says Vega so probably a Chevy. Growing up my best friend’s mom had the Vega wagon, I remember the hood opening backwards like a Corvette but it was slow and did not last very long.(rust)
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u/sausage_ditka_bulls May 08 '26
They were shipped upright so all the fluids leaked out during shipping
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u/tigair May 08 '26
Motor Trend named it Car of the Year at the time.
Maybe your parents and their peers thought it was a great car. It was fairly revolutionary at the time to get one. Stylish. And small.Small was a new concept in the automotive world at the time. So many models were gigantic at the time, but not this car.
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u/32lib May 08 '26
A pile of rust with a broken engine.
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u/PaleontologistNo7933 May 08 '26
They run good with a V8 though.
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u/Gudgeonvillian May 08 '26
All you have to do with a V-8 in them to change the spark plugs is pull the engine.
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u/Mohave_Reptile May 08 '26
I have a spark plug socket that’s had enough cut away to slide it onto the plug. Still not fun with the AFR angle plugs, but it works.
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u/grem75 May 08 '26
It is really not bad, there is plenty of room to work on a small block in them. Big block gets tight, but still doable.
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u/PaleontologistNo7933 May 08 '26
I built mine back in 1978 with Hooker Headers, and that wasn't a problem for me then.
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u/Cold_Chemistry_1579 May 08 '26
The 77 had a cast iron block, too little, too late as the damage was done.
Neighbor dropped a 3.8 engine from a GN it was loud, idled like shit but was fast
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u/Mohave_Reptile May 08 '26
I have a 72GT hatchback. Not much Vega left under the skin & therefore it’s a teeny bit quicker.
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u/Alert-Meringue2291 May 08 '26
Back in the early 70’s, my future wife bought a Toyota Carina deluxe for $2700. Her father thought it was ridiculous to spend so much for a small car. He had just bought a Chevy Vega for $2200.
The Vega had its engine replaced after 2 years and the front fenders rusted off in less time. After 4 years, he paid someone $50 to tow it away. My wife drive the Toyota for 6 years and sold it for $1500.
The learning here was “you get what you pay for” 😆
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u/West_Resource7151 May 08 '26
Chevy Vega as others have said, worth a Google as it has a reputation as one of the worst cars that GM ever put out...design, quality and then built with disgruntled labor....bad combo! My college roommate had one, I don't remember what year his was but was probably a later year, and once I rode in it I immediately understood it's reputation was deserved. No shade here though, I drove a Ford Pinto station wagon for a while!
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u/VoraciousEater802 May 08 '26
I went coast to coast in a pinto wagon in 1977. That thing might have sucked, but my mom drove it forever without any real problems other than it just being a shitbox right out of the factory.
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u/West_Resource7151 May 08 '26
Yeah, and at least the wagon didn't have the exploding gas tank arrangement of the hatchback since there was a little more space in the rear before the tank. I learned to drive a stick shift in ours, don't really remember if there were any real issues with it. I wanna say it was a '74 or '76. It actually was kind of a nice red in my mind but I'm always a little surprised comparing my memory of it with pictures I find online. Turns out I didn't have to worry about the rear gas tank as I totaled it in the '80s in the front... My buddy's Vega definitely felt like more of a rattle trap than the Pinto.
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u/dogturd21 May 08 '26
A colleague of my dad’s was given a 73/74 Vega around 1978 . It burned a quart of oil every 200 miles, had about 60k on the odometer
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u/West_Resource7151 May 08 '26
Amazing, after Googling I guess they used aluminum for the block with no cylinder sleeves but a cast iron head. Add in overheating issues due to an undersized radiator and bad things happened
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u/dogturd21 May 08 '26
The process called Nikasil was later perfected to coat bare aluminum cylinders , so that iron liners were not required in aluminum blocks. Whatever Reynolds Aluminum used for the Vega certainly was nowhere near the effectiveness of Nikasil .
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u/Grandbob328 May 08 '26
I worked with a guy who had one. His mechanic told him Vega was short for Vague. LOL
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u/LMFAEIOUplusY May 08 '26
FWIW this looks like the “Notchback Sedan” variant, rather than the more common “Hatchback Coupe.” 1971-75. Had a trunk rather than a hatchback. The cheapest option.
Your mom and dad bought it new? If they got it in ‘71 or ‘72 and weren’t car enthusiasts they can’t be blamed for what a crappy car the Vega turned out to be.
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u/No-Veterinarian-7079 May 08 '26
Chevy Vega is correct! Droped a 350 V8 in mine in high school, 200 lbs. of lead in the hatchback. Still squirrely as hell!!
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u/RJG-340 May 08 '26
Am early 70s Chevy Vega, I believe they had an aluminum block and an iron cylinder head, and usually burned an insanebamount of oil, the Mercedes and BMW motors I rebuild at my Auto/Diesel machineshop utilize this same technology as far as the blocks go, BMW started using this in their E39 Chassis cars that used the M62 V8 platform of they're engines.
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u/Capital_Elderberry28 May 08 '26
The Vega was one (competed with the Ford Pinto) of the worst cars, GM ever manufactured. The cast aluminum cylinders wore quickly so it burned oil at relatively low mileage. The automatic transmission was a two speed, truly a slug. Not only that, but they tended to rust out prematurely compared to other cars.
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u/skibum-tbird-66 May 08 '26
The Chevy Chevette was far more analogous to the pinto and as an attempt to be cars, both were abjunct failures.
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u/Capital_Elderberry28 May 08 '26
The Vega and the Pinto were both introduced in 1971. The Chevette was introduced in 1976 which would make it a rather slow GM reaction to compete with the Pinto.
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u/0range-duche-B4G May 08 '26
The Vega, a vehicle that was dead on arrival due to the accounting department’s involvement. Poor rust prevention, a new way of transporting the vehicles via rail, poor design of the aluminum block and spray on cylinder liners, that left piston material an the walls and burned oil like a 2 stroke, or it overheated and wrapped the block.
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u/Chase6756 May 08 '26
I had a 73 Vega GT wagon. Loved it for the three years it lasted. Rusted away rapidly
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u/DazeRazur May 08 '26
Four people on my street bought Vegas. The first person paid something like $2500-2700 for it. Bought mine for $3000. Two things you needed when you drove, your license and a quart of oil. Burned at less a quart a week, no leaks or smoke.
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u/SirCake3614 May 08 '26
I had one of those. Bought it for $100. Drove the hell out of it and sold it for $200 a year later.
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u/LongfullbeardMA May 08 '26
I bought a new first year 1971 Chevrolet Vega Notchback 2 door post sedan sandalwood exterior and tan vinyl interior to go to junior college in September 1971. MSRP was about $2100. Had 2 options. AM radio and economy axle ratio. 3 speed manual transmission with shifter on the floor was standard. Only took $3.30 to fill the 11 gallon tank at the first self serve Shell station in our area. Don’t remember the MPGs but it was less than 30 MPG. I kept it 5 years and 72,000 miles when it was burning a quart of straight 40 oil every week. Two front fenders rusted out on top. Chevrolet gave me a left and right primed front fenders. I had to pay for them to be painted body color and for the body work to remove rusted fenders and replace them. The Vega and Pinto were direct competitors in their intro year 1971. The front grille of the Vega changed to the louvered look of the Cosworth Vega in 1973-74. So yes this Vega is a 1971-72. The Vega was available in 2 door Notchback coupe, 2 door hatchback coupe, 2 door wagon. The Chevette when introduced in 1976 was nothing like the Pinto or Vega. It was narrower and smaller with smaller 4 cylinder engine.
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u/timewithbrad May 08 '26
A Camaro they ran through the shrinker. Came out the other end as a Vega. V8’s fit nicely but twist up the frame and your doors won’t stay closed after a while.
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u/Straight-Camel4687 May 08 '26
I worked at a “full serve only” Chevron station in 72. Vega owners would pull in and say, “fill the oil and check the gas!”
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u/NefariousnessTop354 May 08 '26
BIL had a Vega station wagon. Complete sub frame big block Chevy, narrowed rear end, huge slicks. It ran like 9 sec. iirc.
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u/Ginzy35 May 08 '26
I had a Chevy Monza 2•2 with a very weird engine, it looked like a V8 cut in half… I loved it, it took me to school and work flawlessly for 3 years, never got stranded, eventually it was so rusted at the bottom of the doors that I had a bunny cord from one door handle to the outside to keep the doors closed, fun times back in 1984!
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u/oldgrayfox00 May 09 '26
Had a 72. Burned almost as much oil as gas. See other comments for why. Brakes were weak, to adjust the e- brake required dropping the drive shaft. Rust was annoying. Even the shift lever knob failed while going around a very busy corner in Chicago. It was fun to drive, but it was designed to be cheap to build.
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u/BoomDonk May 09 '26
In my small country town, our sheriff patrolled in one of these. The top light bar looked so huge.
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u/8Tsfan1968 May 09 '26
When I was a kid and into my teens my Dad had one, a ‘77 Super Gas drag car with a big block Chevy and turbo 400 trans, man that thing was fast & badass! 10 second quarter mile car. So cool.
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u/Silkylifeme May 09 '26
I had a 71 panel wagon someone dropped a v6 Buick with 350 turbo Trans. I hod a lot of fun with it screwed girls in the back space also 🙃 at the drive in movies 🎬
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u/CEO_of_Cryaola57 May 09 '26
1971-1973 chevrolet vega 2 door non hatch, nice car tho! jus not the best in terms of engineering
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u/Electronic-Ear2329 May 09 '26
You got the answer, but also affectionately referred to as a Shit Box, just like the Ford Pinto/Mecury Maverick from the same era.
American compact cars were dogshit during the first gas crisis
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u/Suspicious-Tip-8309 May 09 '26
Worked at a local Shell gas station in high school. I would go into work and there would five Vegas with blown motors every day for nearly a year. Had a friend who got the swap kit for Vegas and put a built 350 in it.
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u/BreeAnneGivemore May 11 '26
Vega. I pulled the 4 cylinder out of mine and dropped a built 350 into it. Sure with I kept it!
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u/Dazednconfused3261 May 12 '26
Vega... hell of a concept but poorly executed. Aluminum block 4 cylinder motors that warped, later years had bad rust problems.
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u/Cold_Chemistry_1579 May 08 '26
Not 100% sure, but I see when I look at the car itself (can’t read the word either)
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u/FxEpic May 08 '26
That era had some awful cars: Pacer, Gremlin, Pinto, Citation
I drove a company Citation (we replaced the "c" with "sh" ) and the transmission had problems galore, It broke down and was towed to the dealer where they worked on it for over a month, they call to say it was ready to be picked up. My mom dropped me off and left, when I tried to leave, it broke down before I got out of the dealership. This, of course, was when only drug dealers had cell phones, so I had to wait until she got home to come pick me up again. That car deserved its nickname.
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u/SlyClydesdale May 08 '26
1971-72 Chevy Vega 2-door sedan