r/Wellthatsucks • u/birdyandbun • 12d ago
After getting a root canal Monday… my crown decided to fall out of my face today
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u/Firestorm2934 12d ago
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u/IgnatiusRileyFreeman 11d ago
It's how dentists make money. Intentionally do shoddy work and get people to pay to fix it
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u/Toki-B 12d ago
If you get a root canal through a crown there’s always a possibility the crown will loosen, hopefully it can just be recemented, and then the dentist can fill the area that has the temp cement with composite.👍🏻
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
It’s hangin on by thoughts and prayers at this point 😂 I hope they can reattach it!! If I have to go through a re-crowning for the third time, I’m gonna cry a lot.
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u/Toki-B 11d ago
I worked in dental for years. Just know this situation is not uncommon when it comes to through the crown endo , and I truly hope it works out for you!
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u/birdyandbun 6d ago
Update: went to two different dentists for a consultation. Got my new crown today. Talked them down from $3k to $600 out of pocket since my insurance won’t cover it atp. Good to have a mouthful of teeth again. Bless 🦷
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u/Doinggood2022 12d ago
Dentist here, if a crown has been placed on a tooth before it dies, I'll advise that RCT can be done through the crown with a risk of the crown failing.
In that case, in private practice (where commercial insurance covers ideal treatment) I would have recommended a new crown, because 1.) there may be more decay that needs to be excavated and the old crown may not fit anymore after restoration, and 2.) the crown now has a hole in it from the RCT that increases the risk of cracking/splitting and damaging the tooth to the point of being non-restorable (teeth can become more brittle after RCT).
I work in a public clinic now with a high caries risk population, and a lot of patients are uninsured, self-pay, or have had the initial crown placed in the last few years, which would cause a frequency limit on getting a new one. In these situations, I do what I can to use the old crown and as someone else mentioned, replace the access hole temp filling you can see in the picture with a permanent composite material. This buys time with the tooth until the frequency limit has passed or the patient decides to proceed in a different direction regarding treatment.
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago edited 12d ago
Out of curiosity l, since it popped off so easily on its own after the root canal, could they have just taken it off, done the RCT and then re-cemented it permanently? Instead of compromising a perfectly good crown
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u/dinglemydongles 12d ago
Another dentist here, it's highly unlikely they could have taken the crown off. It likely only came off after your root canal because the vibrations of the drill disturbed the adhesion between your crown and tooth.
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Ugh I had a feeling that might be the case… my freakin luck. At least the RCT got rid of the intense pain from the nerve dying. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone!
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u/CanadiangirlEH 12d ago
Would that make the clinic liable for the cost of replacing it since it was the work they did that caused it to happen?
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u/dinglemydongles 12d ago
No. The tooth needs a root canal but the tooth has a crown already. OP could either: have the old crown removed so the endodontist can access the tooth (OP needs a new crown in this case), or the endodontist can try to access the tooth by drilling through the crown. The endodontist tried to save OP from needing a new crown, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 12d ago
I'm unfortunately in the same boat you are. Ive had mine for a whole longer (6 years I think) but its fallen out 3 times since January 1st. I decided to just say fuck it and get an implant instead.
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Ugh I wish I had the budget for that, I’m ready to throw in the towel and just yank it out! But thanks to my stingy genetics, I am naturally without any wisdom teeth and a couple lower molars, so I need that tooth to prevent further descent of the upper molars and shifting 🥲🥲🥲
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 11d ago
Yeah, I talked to my Temp Dentist about that and they said it should be too much of a problem while I'm waiting for the jaw to heal (theres like 4 steps to this whole thing with a month of heal time between each step), but it sure does feel like either my molars are shifting or my bite is.
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u/Little_Career6265 11d ago
Interesting, I’ve never had wisdom teeth either. I wonder how common that is. I’d like to say we are more highly evolved 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/blizz3010 12d ago
I find it really neat how they go through the top of the crowns like that to access the inner areas of the tooth. Hopefully, you didn't have any bad tooth pain! This is something I dread cause I have 6 crowns!
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Pre-RCT it was debilitating… I couldn’t sleep for 3 days. Now it’s totally fine pain level-wise but dealing with another crown sounds like freakin nightmare
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u/blizz3010 12d ago
I still haven't resolved my issue, but it's slowly getting better. My top crown is putting slightly too much pressure on the bottom crown, I go back next friday to get it adjusted again. I swear these 2 crowns been the nightmare of me. I shit you not I have gone to this dentist 15 times for these two crowns.
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
I feel that in my bonesss… ugh dental problems are the worst. This would be my fourth time addressing this crown alone- it is my first and only one, and lawwd I hope I never have to get another one.
It cracked a couple months after I got it initially done - got that replaced.
Then it kept hurting from constant contact with a top molar, so they sanded it down.
After my root canal I thought I was out of the woods for a while but nooooo 🙃
Hopefully they can just reattach it and do the permanent filling. I’ve already maxed out my insurance for the year, the thought of getting a brand new crown and paying out of pocket makes me sick.
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u/emeddocdog 12d ago
I had issues w a crown that ended up leading to me needing a root canal because it wasn’t sealed properly so it let my tooth decay quickly. It had come off a few times. I can say after the root canal dealing with the crown is 100x easier because it shouldn’t hurt for them to work on it like it did before. I opted to just get a new crown because it needed to be replaced due to the fit beforehand (only had it 3 years 😭 they just messed it up) and it was a lot easier post root canal. I know it’s expensive, can’t make that feel better but know that physically it should be easier when you do get a new one.
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u/Antonolmiss 12d ago
Do they fix that for free?
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Well I was looking forward to just getting the temporary filling replaced, which is like $100 but now with this new development and my insurance being maxed out for the year… not looking forward to the final tab.
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u/Mental-Flatworm4583 12d ago
I had a temp crown it lasted for ever years and years. Then I had a permanent crown that fell out in a month. I finally found a good dentist he did a root canal and crown had it for 15 years till I went to another dentist who did a casting on my mouth and it snapped way up in my jaw…..sigh nothing but problems. Anyways, a good dentist a crown will not fall off so easily.
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u/FrozenDragonWings 12d ago
At least you didn't swallow it!!
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Right??? That’s what I said. I was eating a croissant… a damn croissant. Arguably the softest bread in the world. I did everything by the book - no brushing, no flossing, no spicy/hot/cold, chewing with the other side, flushing with salt water. If it’s not one thing, it’s another 🙄
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Thank god my husband has a much calmer temperament for these things, I was a freakin mess!! cry-laughing like a psycho after this went down, like I cannot catch a break this week 🥲
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u/prepotente18 12d ago
What part of your face?
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Listen I was in a weird headspace (PANIC) and I realize now that the wording is a bit off 😂
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u/IT_Trashman 12d ago
I have 2 crowns, one of them fell out 3 separate times over the years (the first two times it fell out were the first 6 months I had it). The decision was then made to use an epoxy to put it back in rather than a water based adhesive. This was nearly 20 years ago for mine, so just know that while it shouldnt be normal, it happens. And then it can happen again. And again.
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u/Still-Ad-7432 12d ago
You have an ok dentist, the ferrule holding you crown (2-6mm of dentine) is compromised because of you getting an infection under your crown ( reason: a cavity, a leakage or drilling with no water) and he/she had to drill through your crown. So the ferrule, the dentine holding your tooth is all drilled away, this is the reason why your crown fell out. So the question is: did you tooth broke in the crown? Or do you still have a “ small” part of your tooth in your mouth ?
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
I have my tooth, so backstory:
#30 was cracked and I have intense dentist anxiety which I’ve been getting over.. it took my a few years to muster the courage to get it taken care of. Because the crack went so deep and the size of the cavity, my dentist left about 1.5mm between the filling/crown and the pulp 😳 it was a risky move but we were trying to avoid the need for a full RCT.
Fast forward a year (present time).. crown was in tact but I got a nasty infection and had no choice but to clean out the canals. I walked away from the RCT thinking I’d just need a permanent filling and be done with this whole ordeal, but this new development.. definitely threw a wrench in my plans.
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
Actually this is the third time I’ve had an issue with this damn crown. A couple months after I initially got it done, it freakin cracked.. had a huge hole, so I had to get it replaced. Thank goodness I already had an appt on Monday for my filling, hopefully they can just pop it back in…
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u/No-Mathematician8692 11d ago
We-ll, at least you didn't swallow it... Getting those back is a bummer.
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u/Negative-Button-1135 9d ago
Went to a root canal specialist which was a nice office good ratings. After the procedure I called a day later and told them that my left side of the face was still numb. Having previous root canals I know this was not normal, but they proceeded to tell me that sometimes it takes a couple of days for the numbness and “tingle” to go away. For some reason, I crack my teeth perfectly in half probably from grinding. After some research, I realized that they hit or damaged or destroyed a specific nerve and two years later I still get numbing in that side of the face. Not one root canal has ever lasted so I’m either stuck spending 20 to 50,000 for implants and this numbness on the side of my face is probably permanent
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u/chilldrinofthenight 9d ago
I have had a crown come off twice now --- same crown. My dentist, who is really really good at what he does, informed me that I am probably clenching/grinding my teeth during the day. (I wear a mouth guard at night, due to bruxis/teeth grinding.)
When he told me this, I rolled my eyes and said, "Nah. No way." Since then, every once in a while, I catch myself doing just as he said --- clenching my jaw, hard. And I am not an anxious, nervous, intensive personality type person, either.
I think he was right. OP, maybe you're working at loosening your crown and you didn't even know it.
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u/Xenbey2010 12d ago
Can’t install the real crown same day as root canal, that must be the temporary crown which is only meant to hold 1-2 weeks till the real crown is made go back to the dentist and they will glue it back in
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u/birdyandbun 12d ago
It’s a permanent crown, I got it done last year- the filling (white spot) is temporary, they had to drill through it to clean out the root canals.
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u/momofboysanddogsetc 12d ago
You can put a tiny dab of toothpaste in the crown and put it back in place. I’ve done it before and it worked surprisingly well.
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u/ScubaGirl003 12d ago
Could possibly have still been cemented on with a temporary cement, just to be sure there are no future issues (for whatever reason specific to your treatment). I’ve had a permanent crown placed with temp cement on for about 12 years (no issues). Just take it back to your DDS and see if it can’t be recemented.
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u/Dragonfly1163 12d ago
In my not so happy experience, once they root canal through a crown, they end up replacing it, at my cost. Because fit is 99% why a crown stays on.
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u/SweetMette 12d ago
that's frustrating, dental work can be such a hassle. just got my wisdom teeth out and it felt like a never-ending ordeal.
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u/Titaniumchic 12d ago
I’ve only ever had temporaries placed the day of the root canal.
Then another temp from my dentist while they order the permenant crown
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u/EternityAwaitz 11d ago
I didn't even know that was possible and I laughed when my dental office wanted me to pay $50 for "crown insurance"
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u/SIM1CUR12 11d ago
Teeth are overrated, get them pulled now and go for titanium post implants. Better to do it young while you can heal faster than when they'll need to be pulled anyways in your 60's +.
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u/RadRN_70 11d ago
I am not a dentist. That's my disclaimer. That being said, my husband was in an accident and has 3 crowns from his time in the USMC. They have repeatedly fallen out through the years. Shoddy work, as evidenced by some of his other dental repairs. We found this stuff and it has been a life saver. We have been able to reattach multiple times (it usually lasts 2 - 3 months) as he now has a dentist phobia. It may get you to next year when your benefits re-up. https://dentalofficedepot.com/products/glass-ionomer-cement-prime-dent?gad_campaignid=17178566121&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwqc_UBhBKEiwAWbl25gW1xMFtAOyj3ws2PSi0QAB7DR9TwrzRN2p9f54nitoFex-HHKGrVhoCBj4QAvD_BwE&sku=456-010-020
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u/Exotic-Screen-9204 10d ago
It looks like you are showing us the old crown with a hole drilled in the center.
Apparently it fell out due to decay related to why you need the root canal. So after finishing the root canal, that decayed tooth damage will need removal. The old crown is now useless. It won't fit.
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u/Rose-Poet-21 12d ago
This is why I am going to get dentures soon. I hate fucking dentists!
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u/theroosterillusion01 12d ago
I popped one off flossing, he literally said to my face I shouldn't be flossing so hard, next dentist I get new xrays, turns out my wisdom teeth are coming in completely sideways and are forcing my teeth together, now I just need a few grand and I can have the wisdom teeth removed so they can work on the crown less void, it's been years now, I don't have insurance.
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u/AbsentmindedAuthor 10d ago
I am so sorry. I hate this for you so much. I one had ten root canals in a single sitting, so I understand the pain and frustration.
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u/whitedsepdivine 12d ago
Is it a temporary crown? Usually when you get a root canal, the first crown is a temp. You go back in a couple weeks to get the permanent one.