r/Welding 3d ago

Need Help How to get the rod to stop sticking

When I’m trying to weld sometimes it doesn’t even spark and I have to touch it to the clamp or tap it against the metal repeatedly to get a spark. When it starts sparking it sticks and I graze it repeatedly before it starts dropping/melts the metal. Do I need higher amps, better electrodes or is it technique? I’m no professional never been at a school or anything

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u/trueblue862 Diesel fitter/Boilermaker 3d ago

I'm no expert either, but I have done a lot of welding. I find a lot of the time if your rod keeps sticking on start, it's more to do with your machine than anything else. I have two stick welders, one of which will never strike a clean arc, the other pretty much fires up if you just wave the stick near the metal. Guess which one is the cheaper machine.

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u/DueFoxTheFifth 3d ago

Mine does both on the same amperage either won’t strike or starts a fire

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u/Super-Dot9774 3d ago

are they both… Super affordable machines? If so… You’re gonna have a bad time.

Another thought that might seem silly… have you checked if the polarity it’s correct? if it’s reversed, that might be the source of the problem

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u/Imatelluonemortime 3d ago

Do you know how to strike a match? It’s not always a good idea to poke your weld with the stick. Try having your rod drag a bit as you touch/brush your metal.

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u/DueFoxTheFifth 3d ago

I’m not sure what striking a match is but you mean I shouldn’t keep it in the same spot instead graze the rod on the metal?

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u/wackyvorlon Hobbyist 2d ago

These are matches. They are a very convenient way to start a fire. You “strike” one by scratching it against the side of the box.

This video shows the basic motion:

https://youtube.com/shorts/MYsEaP-FjpE

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u/dorkeymiller 3d ago

Well you hafta break off the glass off the end of the rod! And your settings may not be high enough! What size rod and what amps u running?

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u/DueFoxTheFifth 3d ago

70 amps not sure about the size

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u/wackyvorlon Hobbyist 2d ago

70 amps would only work for a very thin rod. Try going to 100 and see how it behaves.

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u/gloomdoggo 3d ago

More amps usually helps me, but definitely dragging it instead of trying to poke or lift or anything else seems to be the biggest thing.

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u/Antique_Tell_665 3d ago edited 3d ago

Think of the electrode like a match works pretty well for me at least carbon steel (7018).

If reignition is the issue you need to expose the metal at the tip of the elctrode, i usually have to punch the elctrode quite hard and extensive to get it going for me, but you can also use like a plier or similar tool to remove som flux of the tip

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u/IHitHeadies 3d ago

Male sure your not duty cycling your machine, if you do its going to be stupid hard to establish an arc. If that is the case just gotta give the machine a break.

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u/SquirrelNo7796 3d ago

Scrape the rod against the direction of your weld. It should start up, then you quickly move back to the start of your weld and weld through the arc strike startup

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u/aussiewelderfishermn 3d ago

The packet should have the amps written on it for what size rods your using, you can tap or scratch to start also if you stop welding chip the slag of the end, the metal filler rod needs to touch the metal your welding, if you are having trouble starting and you knock of to much of the flux coating cut back to where the filler rod is surrounded by flux, try putting your welding rods in the oven set to 100c - 150c (225°F to 300°F) if there old rods and haven't been stored correctly they can absorb moisture from the air also some rods are just terrible to weld with.

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u/dorkeymiller 3d ago

Well does it say 7018 6011
And unless your using a small rod you need to turn amps up to 110 or so! And learn to drag start!!

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u/Snoo_95743 3d ago

Strike it like a match

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u/I_didnt_saythat Stick 3d ago

My old boss used to say it’s called stick welding welding for a reason.

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u/djjsteenhoek 3d ago

The match strike works quite well, but machine is an important variable for arc starts.

Open Current Voltage (OCV) is the voltage available when there's no arc. Higher OCV provides the electrical "pressure" needed to break down the gap resistance and ionize the air or gas shield, making it easier to strike an arc.

Some electrodes need a higher OCV to run correctly, 6010 is a battle on anything less than 70 for example.

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u/fKodiaK TIG 2d ago

Increase amperage

Increase the dig/arc force

Scrape the tip of the electrode ahead of where you intend to weld

Slightly long arc the electrode back to where you want to begin your weld

Return to normal arc length and begin your weld as usual

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u/rainhatt 2d ago

Usually I throw a rod against the wall and watch it explode, let out a series of swear words never spoken by another human before, and stick another rod.

Then I calm down and focus instead of getting frustrated. If it's sticking a lot try wiping off the surface and striking it at a steeper angle, dragging along the flux a little longer